Submarines:A boat or a Ship

I see Clancy bashing is addictive and spreading like widfire on this forum.

Clancy is the greatest submariner ever lived.

End of discussion!



p.s. Boats!

[Subnuts]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Clancy is the greatest submariner ever lived.

End of discussion!

Good, because he's a relentlessly average writer.

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by Linton

If Clancy called them boats they must be ships!!!Somewhere in these posts a correspondent said he was going to Groton last weekend so where are the pictures of the boats,oops ships?

I'll get there.
No pictures though. They have signs saying no pictures. Besides GSB is a really boring small place and you can't get near the boats without a lower base pass anyway.

Originally Posted by Subnuts

Good, because he's a relentlessly average writer.

Clancy is a very good writer. You're not an expert so you shouldn't really judge. Compared to Frederick Forsyth, he is infinitely better. Compared to Dickens, average, yes. But I think comparing modern writers to classical writers is unfair to begin with.

Clancy invented the techno-thriller.

[Ramius]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Clancy is the greatest submariner ever lived.

End of discussion!

LMFAO - you got to be kidding right ??

[tycho102]

Originally Posted by Subnuts

Good, because he's a relentlessly average writer.

So is JK Rowling.

The catch here is that they are Filthy Rich average writers. Relentlessly average billionare writers. Although, I would shag Rowling long before I shagged Clancy. She's fairly hot.

But beyond all this talk about money, the movie adaptation of Red October was actually pretty decent. Sean Connery giving his little "Cortez" speech to the wardroom was a classic manuever. Though I do think, concerning realism, that not enough officers had their mouths open after that one -- blank stares were abundant.:rotfl:

What is an "average" writer, anyway? Does anyone know how difficult it is to write a book here? I'd imagine not. Then these guys like Rowling writes books which have to keep kids amused...that can't be easy. And Tom has to write stuff which keep Presidents amused...also not easy. Though Bush prefers Rowling to Clancy, me thinks. :hmm:

Whatever...they deserve the money they earn. If it wasn't for Clancy there wouldn't be so much interest in military stuff as entertainment. So let's all thank him...yes?

[scandium]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Clancy is a very good writer. You're not an expert so you shouldn't really judge. Compared to Frederick Forsyth, he is infinitely better. Compared to Dickens, average, yes. But I think comparing modern writers to classical writers is unfair to begin with.

Clancy invented the techno-thriller.

Ken Follet is better than both of them. "The Pillars of the Earth" is one of the best novels that I've ever read, though his more recent stuff seems... lacking. At any rate, all 3 are good writers and I think a definite notch above Dan Brown and other pot boiler writers.

Serious literature is all well and good, HG Wells, George Orwell, etc - but a diet of nothing but serious literature is like a life without pizza and cheese burgers. I mean, they may be the full meals but snacks are nice too

[Dowly]

IMO, ship is a ship, boat is a boat and submarine is a submarine!

P.S. If I would be forced to choose, I´d say it´s a boat.

[Bill Nichols]

You know the Navy, Neal. 200 years of tradition unmarred by progress

[Drebbel]

Originally Posted by Bill Nichols

You know the Navy, Neal. 200 years of tradition unmarred by progress

Come on Bill !

You as a submariner could tell us more about the subject !

[Bill Nichols]

Not much to say, subs are boats. Skimmers are ships.

[Sir Big Jugs]

Originally Posted by Bill Nichols

Not much to say, subs are boats. Skimmers are ships.

End of discussion.

[Drebbel]

I see. I guess the ex nuke sub captain that that used to visit these boards and stated that he was captain of a ship was probably a troll then.

He really washed out ears on the boat/ship discussiom. At that time we probably also ended the discussion with

End of discussion.

But then thinking it was "boat"

And how aboat Neal, and his nuke sub ride ? I am sure Neal quoted correctly

[bradclark1]

Hah, Bill didn't give the answer you wanted huh.