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Old 07-06-06, 12:50 AM   #31
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22 Oct 1952: The U.S. Navy has taken some aerial photos / film footage showing the O 19 still on the Ladd Reef with only minimal visible changes noticeable.
That is what I meant, they are all correct. And no, I am not gonna change it :p
Why not. You said earlier their was only minimal visible damage. The site says minimal visible changes.

They dont mean the same.


Besides the web site changed the fate of the O19 from sunk/scuttled to run aground just a few days ago. I figured they could change that too.

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Old 07-06-06, 01:22 AM   #32
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Why not. You said earlier their was only minimal visible damage. The site says minimal visible changes.
The comment on the movie is the official USN comment, afterall it was a USN movie

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They dont mean the same.
Go complain with the commander in Chief :p


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Besides the web site changed the fate of the O19 from sunk/scuttled to run aground just a few days ago.
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I figured they could change that too.
No, it was not changed at all. Has been like this for years. I think you are having to much sun skipper
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Old 07-06-06, 03:53 AM   #33
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If you ground your boat in the Bay of Fundy during low tide, when the tide comes back in, it is still possible for you to sail off because your boat can float. However, if at low tide, I come along and blow your stern off your boat cant float and when the tide comes in, water covers the boat. IE: I sunk it!


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Blowing stern of on purpose in this case is scutling mate. You better get your terminology right ! :p
This is from:

WORLD WAR II NAVAL GLOSSARY and TERMINOLOGY
http://www.valoratsea.com/glossary.htm#S



Scuttle - The act of deliberately SINKING a vessel.



This is Webster's Dictionary:

Scuttle - 1. to cut a hole in a ship's hull in order to SINK.

I am sorry. Who has their terminology wrong?

BTW. I know exactly what I saw on the website a few days ago.

O 19 sunk/scuttled








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Old 07-06-06, 04:16 AM   #34
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BTW. I know exactly what I saw on the website a few days ago.



O 19 sunk/scuttled



I am sorry, of course you are right, how could I know what you saw at that website a few days ago ! :p

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Old 07-07-06, 01:37 AM   #35
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Mini invasion brought to you by the Nautilus SS 168.

I doubt if SH IV will be able to pull this one off. Nautilus lands troops on a Pacific Atol then provides naval artillary support to the troops she landed.

The following happened in November of 1943 in support of the Tarawa Invasion some 95 miles away:

"She returned to Tarawa 18 November to obtain last minute information on weather and surf conditions, landing hazards and the results of recent bombardments. At 2159, 19 November, mistaking her as an enemy, Ringgold fired at Nautilus, sending a five inch shell through the conning tower damaging the main induction drain. Diving as soon as the topography permitted, the boat was rigged for depth charges and the damage control party went to work. Within two hours repairs were sufficient to allow Nautilus to continue with her primary mission: landing a 78 man scouting party, composed of 5th Amphibious Reconnaissance Co. marines and an Australian scout, on Abemama.

At midnight, 20–21 November, Nautilus lay to 3000 yards off Kenna to discharge her passengers. By 1500 all were safely ashore. On the afternoon of the 22nd Nautilus was called on for, and provided, gunfire support against the minute, 25 man, but game enemy garrison. Rather than sacrifice marines in bringing the Japanese out of their bunkers, naval gunfire had been requested. The gunfire proved accurate, killing 14; the remainder committed suicide. Thus, by the time the main assault force arrived on the 26th, Abemama had been secured and preparations to turn it into an air base for the Marshalls’ campaign had begun"

Friendly fire, landing an invasion force, and shore bombardment.

Anways, I think it would be great if they could work a mission like that into SH IV.
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