USS Jimmy Carter

[SmokinTep]

Well, made it out here with my crew to beautiful Bangor Washington. Am doing an assessment visit on her for 2 weeks berfore her deployment. What an awesome boat. The CO is Capt Kelso, some of you may remember his Dad was CNO during the Tailhook incident.

[Yahoshua]

Sink the bastard........Jimmy Carter pardoned "Slick Willy" while he was still a FELON!!

[Onkel Neal]

Pictures! We demand pictures!

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Yahoshua

Sink the bastard........Jimmy Carter pardoned "Slick Willy" while he was still a FELON!!

Ahem. Rename the Bastid. No need to dispose of such a great submarine when you could just call her something else. I totally agree, Jimmah' definitely doesn't deserve the honor.

Edited to add: I second the call for pics.

[Subnuts]

I can't believe they named a submarine after a former submariner!

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Subnuts

I can't believe they named a submarine after a former submariner!

Ironicly isn't that what Destroyers and Frigates are for? :hmm:

[Yahoshua]

Ok ok, so maybe I'm a little extreme and certifiably insane...re-name the boat.

I say we name it the USSN Benton. (just pulled a name out of thin air)

[Bort]

Hey you guys lay off JC. Jimmy Carter was a good decent man who, as president, was overwhelmed by the events of the times. Whatever you may say about his abilities as president, his honor, courage and patriotism are beyond question. Besides, one only has to look at the candidates in the 76 election to see that, for all his faults, Carter was indeed the best choice at the time.

Bravo! Couldn't have said it better myself, August. While I personally find the current practice of naming ships after living people abhorrent, if that is what we're gonna do, than Mr. Carter deserves the honor just as much as anyone else. I hate it when people demonize Carter like he was the liberal equivalent of Hitler or something, he was well meaning, actually had some pretty good ideas, and was as honest and moral as can be. Do I disagree with some of the decisions he made, of course, but that should not lead to ragging on someone who is by all means a great American. Plus, he was a bubblehead, give him some credit!

[August]

Originally Posted by *[FOX]* Bort

Bravo! Couldn't have said it better myself, August. While I personally find the current practice of naming ships after living people abhorrent, if that is what we're gonna do, than Mr. Carter deserves the honor just as much as anyone else. I hate it when people demonize Carter like he was the liberal equivalent of Hitler or something, he was well meaning, actually had some pretty good ideas, and was as honest and moral as can be. Do I disagree with some of the decisions he made, of course, but that should not lead to ragging on someone who is by all means a great American. Plus, he was a bubblehead, give him some credit!

What i think many people, especially Europeans, don't realize is the power of the US Presidency is far less encompassing than they think. The real power is, and has always been, the Congress. They're the ones who really set the national policy. They're the ones who pass laws, they're the ones who hold the national purse strings. The President is more a lightening rod and a goad for their actions.

[DeepSix]

Originally Posted by August

What i think many people, especially Europeans, don't realize is the power of the US Presidency is far less encompassing than they think. The real power is, and has always been, the Congress. They're the ones who really set the national policy. They're the ones who pass laws, they're the ones who hold the national purse strings. The President is more a lightening rod and a goad for their actions.

Right on. There is real power in the presidency, but most of American life and law is characterized by the actions of Congress - and over multiple decades, not a single administration (or even two).

[Fish]

Originally Posted by *[FOX]* Bort

Bravo! Couldn't have said it better myself, August. While I personally find the current practice of naming ships after living people abhorrent, if that is what we're gonna do, than Mr. Carter deserves the honor just as much as anyone else. I hate it when people demonize Carter like he was the liberal equivalent of Hitler or something, he was well meaning, actually had some pretty good ideas, and was as honest and moral as can be. Do I disagree with some of the decisions he made, of course, but that should not lead to ragging on someone who is by all means a great American. Plus, he was a bubblehead, give him some credit!

hear, hear!