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Old 01-25-06, 09:09 AM   #31
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That would be a sight!
The USS Constitution and the HMS Victory in a mock combat drill together.
Well, since Constitution regularly sails around it's home port and Victory is embedded in concrete and can't move at all, guess who wins?
Constitution is no longer allowed to sail, too much risk of structural damage. Only thing she does now is the annual 'turn around', with tugboat assist
I meant when they were in their Prime, Gentleman and some kind of timewarp permitted them to fight together.

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Actually, Mustang, I agree. Within that context a mock fight between two of the great sailing ships would be a wonderful thing to see.

Also within that context Victory would certainly be the winner. A 44 gun frigate, no matter how good against others of her type, would have no choice but to run or die against a full-blown ship of the line.
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Old 01-25-06, 02:03 PM   #33
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... a writer named Olver Wendell Holmes...
He was so much more than "a writer". Oliver Wendell Holmes was an officer in the Union Army during the US Civil War; as a much older man he was Chief Justice of the US Supreme court.

In Battles And Leaders Of The Civil War he tells one of my favorite stories: In 1864 Washington DC was protected by a series of forts connected by a single wooden wall, and the Confederates were close enough that snipers could fire at that wall. Holmes, at that point a Captain in the Army, saw a tall man in a suit standing on the parapet, looking out over the area. Holmes says he shouted at the man "Get down, you damned fool! Don't you know they can hit you from there?"

He ran over to the man, only to realize it was President Lincoln himself. Expecting to be in serious trouble, Holmes was surprised and relieved when the President looked him up and down and said "Well, Captain, I'm glad to see you know the proper way to address a civilian!".
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Old 01-25-06, 04:20 PM   #34
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That would be a sight!
The USS Constitution and the HMS Victory in a mock combat drill together.
Well, since Constitution regularly sails around it's home port and Victory is embedded in concrete and can't move at all, guess who wins?

My personal favorite would have to be the late-WWII Gearing class destroyer, but only because I served on one.
HMS Victory was in a drydock last time I looked.
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Old 01-25-06, 04:55 PM   #35
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where do dumb nuts come from

im not a sail man in fact im a modern man dont realy like anything before the age of steam there is some thing about steam and modern stuff that intrests me, also cruise liners also intrest me and also a few other types of ships.
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