So I finaly got to see Das Boot..... - Page 3

capt-jones · 11-16-05, 02:10 PM

:rotfl: seadler wrote

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Das Boot was filmed 1980, in cinema 1981. The 6h TV version was shown for the first time 1985 in German television.

now i know why the captain looks so old in the interview of the directors cut :hmm:i thought i saw the tv series a very long time ago

but still one of the best war films ever

GlobalExplorer · 11-16-05, 02:12 PM

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I will search for that book. Sounds good.

@kiwi: You won't be dissappointed. Just keep in mind that the major part of the novel plays on land, and deals with the chaos in France at the time of the Invasion. There is some part on a submarine, but it's very different to "Das Boot".

GlobalExplorer · 11-16-05, 02:25 PM

For those of you that speak german, while reading the thread I was searching somewhat and found this article:

http://www.uni-duisburg.de/AL/koepfinterview.html

I'd say it is a witchhunt on the most potent level after buchheim, which has btw been going on since his first book appeared. They even call it the "Buchheim case".

What do you think of it? I cannot believe how somebody can write such nonsense. Just recently I read "JÃ¤ger im Weltmeer" and I was amazed that the book could even be published during WWII because there is not one line of Nazi propaganda in it. And in the interview they act as if Buchheim was a prominent neo-nazi .. Possibly because he wrote in the book that he had the greatest moment of his life during the war. What's wrong with that?

Dowly · 11-17-05, 04:20 PM

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I had noticed that in a couple of scenes, he was in the background reading to another crewmember, and it did sound a bit ....propagandish....

A little-known fact: most of what the young Nazi was reading aloud was actually the genuine text of lectures made by Wolfgang Luth, a famous U-boat commander with pro-Hitler sympathies.

HereÂ´s the 'Leadership Lecture' by Wolfgang LÃ¼th:

http://www.uboatarchive.net/LuethLecture.htm

wetwarev7 · 11-18-05, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by wetwarev7

I had noticed that in a couple of scenes, he was in the background reading to another crewmember, and it did sound a bit ....propagandish....

A little-known fact: most of what the young Nazi was reading aloud was actually the genuine text of lectures made by Wolfgang Luth, a famous U-boat commander with pro-Hitler sympathies.

HereÂ´s the 'Leadership Lecture' by Wolfgang LÃ¼th:

http://www.uboatarchive.net/LuethLecture.htm

Good find!

VWPowerSub · 11-18-05, 10:45 PM

Das Boot was the first foreign film i watched in the movei theater. I was visiting my Dad in NYC and he took me to see it back when it was in theaters. I was a early teen then but really enjoyed it even in German. I did not speak german but still followed it petty well hardly glancing at the subtitles. Ahhh memories. Have not watched it in years but need too.
later,
Erick

Average Joe · 11-18-05, 11:33 PM

Glad I saw this topic. I'll be watching the 6-hour DVD version tonight; or..., maybe just the first DVD, then the rest tomorrow

I got this DVD-set about 5 months ago, and it's due for another viewing. Plus watching for 'tips' to apply to SH3

I don't speak German but will watch with subtitles. The English dubbing is quite good (I heard they were done by the original actors?), but it's so much more 'intense and realistic' in the German language.

P_Funk · 11-18-05, 11:58 PM

Personally I don't see whats so bad about subtitles. The actual words used by the actors is only part of watching an actor. The real meat of it is in how he gestures and the emotion you feel from his performance. Something is always lost in translation and I enjoy much more experiencing thje German perspective of living andd fighting in a U-boat and with that comes the German language. Thats my perspective on this.

11-19-05, 12:19 AM

Das Boat is by far the MOST ACCURATE account of German submarine warfare.

Check the ratings out on Uboat.net in the forums section under movies to see what people in general think of all the submarine movies ever produced. :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
It's too bad with all the money that was spent into producing U-571, that they didn't protray an accurate event during the war. But........that's Hollywood for you.

Das Boat does protray the events of the war quite accurately.

Bottom line: I have seen most of the WWII submarine movies produced and Das Boat is by far the best. To get a real feeling of what the war was like, it is best viewed using the German language for sound and the English subtitles turned on (as the movie was produced overseas). You'll need the DVD to do this (and a good bottle of wine or a case of beer). My best advice, sit back, relax and enjoy it.

Good Hunting, Erich Topp U-552

P.S. You might even discover a tactic that you can use during your next SH3 mission.

GlobalExplorer · 11-19-05, 07:49 AM

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P.S. You might even discover a tactic that you can use during your next SH3 mission.

Then it can only be the "Schnellbootangriff" ! Too bad I play on Manual TDC, so it's not really an option.

11-16-05, 02:25 PM	#33
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	For those of you that speak german, while reading the thread I was searching somewhat and found this article: http://www.uni-duisburg.de/AL/koepfinterview.html I'd say it is a witchhunt on the most potent level after buchheim, which has btw been going on since his first book appeared. They even call it the "Buchheim case". What do you think of it? I cannot believe how somebody can write such nonsense. Just recently I read "JÃ¤ger im Weltmeer" and I was amazed that the book could even be published during WWII because there is not one line of Nazi propaganda in it. And in the interview they act as if Buchheim was a prominent neo-nazi .. Possibly because he wrote in the book that he had the greatest moment of his life during the war. What's wrong with that? __________________

11-18-05, 11:33 PM	#37
Average Joe Eternal Patrol Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: U.S. Posts: 202 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Glad I saw this topic. I'll be watching the 6-hour DVD version tonight; or..., maybe just the first DVD, then the rest tomorrow I got this DVD-set about 5 months ago, and it's due for another viewing. Plus watching for 'tips' to apply to SH3 I don't speak German but will watch with subtitles. The English dubbing is quite good (I heard they were done by the original actors?), but it's so much more 'intense and realistic' in the German language. __________________ Avg. Joe

11-18-05, 11:58 PM	#38
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	Personally I don't see whats so bad about subtitles. The actual words used by the actors is only part of watching an actor. The real meat of it is in how he gestures and the emotion you feel from his performance. Something is always lost in translation and I enjoy much more experiencing thje German perspective of living andd fighting in a U-boat and with that comes the German language. Thats my perspective on this. __________________

11-18-05, 10:45 PM	#36
VWPowerSub Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Das Boot was the first foreign film i watched in the movei theater. I was visiting my Dad in NYC and he took me to see it back when it was in theaters. I was a early teen then but really enjoyed it even in German. I did not speak german but still followed it petty well hardly glancing at the subtitles. Ahhh memories. Have not watched it in years but need too. later, Erick

11-19-05, 12:19 AM	#39
U-552Erich-Topp Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Das Boat is by far the MOST ACCURATE account of German submarine warfare. Check the ratings out on Uboat.net in the forums section under movies to see what people in general think of all the submarine movies ever produced. :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: It's too bad with all the money that was spent into producing U-571, that they didn't protray an accurate event during the war. But........that's Hollywood for you. Das Boat does protray the events of the war quite accurately. Bottom line: I have seen most of the WWII submarine movies produced and Das Boat is by far the best. To get a real feeling of what the war was like, it is best viewed using the German language for sound and the English subtitles turned on (as the movie was produced overseas). You'll need the DVD to do this (and a good bottle of wine or a case of beer). My best advice, sit back, relax and enjoy it. Good Hunting, Erich Topp U-552 P.S. You might even discover a tactic that you can use during your next SH3 mission.