Does this mean there is no SH4?

[wetwarev7]

Originally Posted by ReM

Lol this Starforce.........it's everywhere!
Damn it

It's the biggest, meanest, most advanced virus since Windows!!!!

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Originally Posted by wetwarev7

I agree. If you ever get a chance, check out Egosoft's X3: The Return. This series is by far the best space game, period. I first learned of it when they had just come out witht the expansion pack for the first one, and I was able to order it and the expansion, with overseas shipping, for like $25(US), because there was absolutly no marketing for it here in the states.

I find that as a rule of thumb, the more marketing a game has, the less likely it will be a ground-breaking or epic experience, and almost ALL games made in the States by large companies are market driven. All the best, classic games I can think of were all made by people or companies who were, at the time, nobodies.

Regarding Egosoft's X Series... They ARE the BEST!!!!!

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by wetwarev7

It's the biggest, meanest, most advanced virus since Windows!!!!

Well not exactly, take a look at Sony's rootkit drm on music compact discs, its absolutely worse.

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...al-rights.html

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051101-5514.html

enjoy the benefits of starforce-like protection schemes

[GlobalExplorer]

Originally Posted by ENtek-IO

Imagine that, you buy the newest Porsche and they left out the Turbo loader, because they had to release it .!??
What kind of company ethics is this?

This car-software analogy has been repeated over and over, and IMO only shows that a person has no idea of software development. I do respect the anger and frustration of some of you if you are having problems with your favourite game, or computers in general. However, if you would decide to apply a car manufacturers strict engineering rules to a computer game, your game would either take decades (not years) to develop, or if you want to do it faster, lets say 2 years, it would have to look like it was made for the Z80. It just doesnt work like that, and yes, it's the customers fault, too. The high standards we are expecting from every game nowadays, can only achieved because programmers are encouraged to work much faster than they should. Some say this is the only way to move forward, though I expect it to change when the technology in general becomes more mature.

From the perspective of software development, I see absolutely nothing wrong with SH3. It is just a shame if you think of what would have been possible with this engine! Especially if you think how little time the team had, and still pulled it off.

Conclusion. If UBI has lost money with SH3, and would still decide to produce a sequel, the guy in charge would sooner or later have to go. It's sad but it's true.

[GlobalExplorer]

Originally Posted by BettingUrlife

Sorry for this rant, a little angry at the moment, hopefully what I've said is clear. I really like this game, but to hear that there will be no more patches annoys me intensely.

I am no less annoyed. But still a bit hopeful. There have been some cases where there have been unofficial patches, especially games with a huge discrepancy between critical acclaim and financial success. GPL and F4 come to mind, both games that are still being worked on though they are from the late 90's.

[ironkross]

Originally Posted by wetwarev7

A follow up to the previous post:


I was just at Egosoft's forum, and found out they are using Starforce!!!! I don't know if I wanna buy it now....

Someone on the Egosoft forum suggested it might not be on the CD version of the game. I hadn't known you could choose from DVD or CD.
I haven't had a problem with Starforce. I would buy X3 despite it's having it, esp. since it's already on my computer w/ SHIII. This isn't my issue as much as playability, lack of cockpits and the huge number of bugs that come w/ the game. I would rather wait for the patches and wait for the cockpit mods and by then maybe buy the game at a discount.

[wetwarev7]

Originally Posted by ironkross

Someone on the Egosoft forum suggested it might not be on the CD version of the game. I hadn't known you could choose from DVD or CD.
I haven't had a problem with Starforce. I would buy X3 despite it's having it, esp. since it's already on my computer w/ SHIII. This isn't my issue as much as playability, lack of cockpits and the huge number of bugs that come w/ the game. I would rather wait for the patches and wait for the cockpit mods and by then maybe buy the game at a discount.

Yeah, I'll probably buy it anyways, it is X3, after all! Especially if I can get the CD version without Starforce.

[ironkross]

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

From the perspective of software development, I see absolutely nothing wrong with SH3. It is just a shame if you think of what would have been possible with this engine! Especially if you think how little time the team had, and still pulled it off.

I completely agree. I wish other companies would be this dedicated to their products.

Conclusion. If UBI has lost money with SH3, and would still decide to produce a sequel, the guy in charge would sooner or later have to go. It's sad but it's true.

And everytime this happens I'm afraid it retards PC gaming as a whole in relation to the consoles.

[Ula Jolly]

Originally Posted by goldorak

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...al-rights.html

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051101-5514.html

enjoy the benefits of starforce-like protection schemes

I don't mean to go off topic, but that was truly moronic!! If Sony were to install that kind of software on my computer, I would like them to at LEAST use someone competent enough to look as if they cared about me! :rotfl:

But over on topic... The ranting about the big, bad game companies that don't give a damn about their customers is getting old. Old, and very stupid. Yes, some people see only money, but quite a few game developers actually start out with a great desire to bring entertainment to people. It's very easy to put them on a distance and label them as Satans, but c'mon!

[TDK1044]

This game will give the vast majority of people who play it years of enjoyment....and for a total cost of under $40. Money well spent in my view. Global Explorer said it all in his posting.

[ironkross]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

This game will give the vast majority of people who play it years of enjoyment....and for a total cost of under $40. Money well spent in my view. Global Explorer said it all in his posting.

I agree but I have to credit the modder community for helping to extend the life of SHIII. Without the various mods to spruce things up, I don't think I would play as often as I do. Going on nine months and the mods definitely keep the interest up.

[ReM]

Maybe there will not be an SH IV,
But an AoD 2 !!!!!

[TDK1044]

I wouldn't write SH4 off just yet, Guys.

[supersloth]

i think gamespot mentioned something about sh4 being in the Q4 2006 lineup. seems a little soon, but i suppose its possible *crosses fingers*

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I wouldn't write SH4 off just yet, Guys.

Don't ignore your CO2 gauge.