iraq a just war?

[Type941]

August - all I can say is that the truth will set you free. (how can you mistranslate Bush into english???)

Anyway, the guy has ZERO credibility. Who cares where the source comes from. The bottom line is Bush said at least 2 of those things for sure, and one is may be a speculation, may be not. You my friend, on the other hand just focus one 1 thing, declare it bollocks because you can't believe it, and why do you think you are correct? I think you are misguided on Bush. Which brings me back to my original point. The truth will set ya free. :|\

[Abraham]

Originally Posted by Type941

August - all I can say is that the truth will set you free. (how can you mistranslate Bush into english???)

Anyway, the guy has ZERO credibility. Who cares where the source comes from...

I like that combination, Type941: "The truth will set you free" and "Who cares where the source comes from".
I always thought the more you reach for the truth, the more you doubt your sources.
But I have to admit it's much more simple the other way around:
"Bush is the best President the US could have at this very moment", some source told me the other day. And the majority of US citizens agreed last year: "The guy got more votes than any other US President in the history of mankind", another source told me.

[Type941]

Originally Posted by Abraham

But I have to admit it's much more simple the other way around:
"Bush is the best President the US could have at this very moment", some source told me the other day. And the majority of US citizens agreed last year: "The guy got more votes than any other US President in the history of mankind", another source told me.

OK, who ever added the "mankind" bit is obviously having a little bit of 'america is the greatest nation in the world' drink.

But jokes aside, I'm amazed how people still defend this monster after what he's done to the middle east and safety of the mankind (without qoutation marks).

I like America, but I think it's administration is a threat to the world, big time.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Type941

I like America, but I think it's administration is a threat to the world, big time.

I'll subscribe to that view also. The more in depth I look at the american conservative agenda, the more worried I get about the world. And the more I have contact with americans, the more I realize that they don't realize how messed up things are, or why others see it that way.

[Fish]

Found this when looking for PNAC.

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/cheney_s_secrets.html

And this one.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/VonBuelow.html

[Type941]

Has anyone read 'the emperror's new clothes' article which goes into greaet detail and research, and has a lot of paper proof what the top brass of the us did in Sept 11? it's quite a read.

It's as true as the government's own offical reports are. If someone is interested, i'll try to find it again (although google can do it for you just as well). Seen it disucussed on Fox, and O'Reily was particularly poor when dealing with the author...

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by CCIP

What about energy? :hmm:

Energy does not hold space. Rather, it is a force that directs and influences matter and, therefore does not take physical place (eg. light is weightless).

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Energy does not hold space. Rather, it is a force that directs and influences matter and, therefore does not take physical place (eg. light is weightless).

...aaaaand THAT's why I'm a few months away from getting my diploma in linguistics.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Type941

"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

You been consulting the wizard again haven't you.



LMAO...Dang where the heck was I when that statment was made...you'd think the press would have never let that one die.

I didn't inhale...really... :|\

[Type941]

The american press closes their eyes on a lot of things when it comes to Bush.... :|\

[Skybird]

... or is straight forward requested not to report (if not prohibited) on certain aspects of events that might sow opposition, unrest or doubt. The reporting about the nasty sides of the NO desaster is somewhat cleaned and polished. That FEMA requested the broadcasting stations not to show or tell about the many bodies being scattered around in the streets reminds one of the censorship of reporting about american casualties in Iraq - pics form opinions, what they see on TV is people's reality, if it is not on TV it is not real for many, so no pics, please - thank you for beeing a patriot, Sir, thank you for supporting the president.

Leader and country is not the same.

[bradclark1]

The news shows the bodies Skybird.

[Skybird]

If so my sources were wrong, I apologize. I was told by former colleagues - and it is reported in the medias (print and TV) as well - that the reporting is heavily pressed by FEMA not to broadcast pictures of mounting heaps of dead people, and from inside halls were the bodies are collected.

Not that it is necessary to show such material again and again. It just should not be supressed or prohibited.

[Type941]

I heard the death toll at least 10000 (as in number of bodies floating).

All they did on TV is to show a few victims from distance, on still frames, and said there's many more.

The assesment of FEMA and others requisting cencorship is 100% accurate - they have always done it. That's the freedom of the press for you. See it's there - but it's only selected. Whenever Bush and CO don't like something, they play the 'patriot' card. It'd very disgusting as they only show what they want people to show and control the press as much as possible, yet allow some negativity, otherwise they'd be in USSR territory with propoganda. But essentially, the media in the us is controlled very heavily.

I'm sure these researches were done, and people like the owner of FOX, etc are all on first name basis in the white house with the Chenynies and Bushes. Why our american friends here can't seem to accept that fact is a strange and worrying. Your press is SELECTIVE on when it's free and when it's not.

But what you don't hear is things like death toll official of civilians killed in Iraq. Why? Is it because it's so horryfying that some Africa leader will be sent to the Hague for it? Milocevic type of thing. But anyone who would say such a thing would be a damned liberal nutjob. And it would be unpariotic, because if the arab world finds out that there's like 100000 Iraqi civilian casulties... well, they'd be outraged (not sure anywhere esle it would cause much more than a raised eyebrow, especially the likes of Russians, French and British probably know this number as well.)

[Type941]

'this just in'.

Apparently CNN just filed a lawsuit against the government because the government told them not to show victims' bodies floating in the water. So. Good on them for doing that.