Any developments on the cold war?

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

oh please stuff that $30 a platform give over

the fs downloads are cheaper in fact they cost sqiddly dot (thats $0 to most people)

why cant we have the same ?

Because SCS wants to continue to develop for DW can't you understand this ?
If you don't want to pay for the add-ons its your choice, but if all the community thinks along the same lines as you then SCS have absolutely no incentive to continue supporting in future DW, nor will they create additional content for it.
Its as simple as that.

[Kapitan]

ahhh i see now i support add on packs but if they want to develope then shouldnt they go the same ways as the flight sims ?

[PeriscopeDepth]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

ahhh i see now i support add on packs but if they want to develope then shouldnt they go the same ways as the flight sims ?

Flight sims sell more copies, thus not needing additional revenue through add on packs from the developer. In the case of MSFS, I'm guessing about several hundred thousand more copies than DW.

[Egan]

In terms of drivable platforms, it's one of the reasons I' ve yet to buy the game: It's not that I don't want to drive Surface ships or aircrafts it's just that I don't really want to drive American or Russian ones that much.

As much I always enjoyed the 688 in SC and would like to mess around with the OHP, I would much rather get a Traffie with British voices than more Russian or American stuff, as fun as they are.

I'm probably going to buy the game anyway but I would pay even more for a Royal Navy Add-On or, at a push, a cold war one....I really would.

[Ula Jolly]

Why can't there be third party addons? Microsoft FS runs mainly on freeware (and the shareware there is is also developed by third parties). Selling expansions pack would perhaps add much to the game, but it would be a solution for the "elite".

[TLAM Strike]

Beacuse you need access to the .DLLs to make "true" new playables and SCS keeps a lit on those beacuse its used in this military training programs.

Code from the DW OHP is going in to a ASTAC trainer for the USN IIRC.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by mike_espo

I don't know about you guys, but I would be willing to pay for more drivable platforms.....Alfa, Foxtrot, Hotel ect

As long as it is reasonable price. :hmm:

Permit Class SSN, Sturgeon SSN, USS Nautilus would make a nice expansion Cold-War pack. On the Soviet side Alfa, Victor II, Yankee.

Sea Demon

[NefariousKoel]

From my understanding, the DWX guys can make extra platforms but they can't be 'playables'. Just more targets, which is a good thing in any case.

[mike_espo]

Just finished reading K-19: the memoirs of Nikolai Zateyev. Great read.

Would be nice to see some old cold war Soviet nukes Novembers, Hotels, with a probability of breakdowns and reactor accidents.

"Captain, the pressure in port reactor is dropping! Captain, the control rods won't engage, reactor is overheating!" :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Kapitan]

lol hmmmm what about some of those russian mini subs like the mir 1 and 2 you know the ones they used in the film titanic

older russian platforms november victor yankee hotel etc are good too oooo dont forget the alfa

on the american side thresher permit class and a few others

i realy think SCS aught to re think thier idea about playable platforms

mind you in saying that i probly have it wrong anyway

[sonar732]

If I remember right, there was an "expansion pact" topic a while back with everyones "wish list".

May, Helix, Krivak or Udaloy, Alfa, Victor II, Permit, and Collins or American SS...can't remember right now the name of last one.

[Kapitan]

if all them are there im on the que

[Winston]

For my part I’d love to see new drivable platforms. And I would be happy to pay for them. DW is one of the very few games I play these days so paying £15 to £20 and perhaps even more would be perfectly fine for me. I think that the idea of having optional ‘modular’ expansion packs that could be mixed and matched depending on what people want to drive would be good. For example there could be a British Royal Navy expansion whose drivable platforms might include a Trafalgar, Type 23 and a Merlin. Then you could have the Russian surface fleet pack perhaps including the Udaloy, Krivak (possibly Neustrashimy) and the helix. Hmm as you say, it's a bit of a wish list. Hell truth be told I'd be happy to buy anything that adds to this game.

I would also like to see a cold war expansion, would be a lot of work though given all the different platforms.

[XabbaRus]

Originally Posted by Ula Jolly

Why can't there be third party addons? Microsoft FS runs mainly on freeware (and the shareware there is is also developed by third parties). Selling expansions pack would perhaps add much to the game, but it would be a solution for the "elite".

Have you seen the number of third party addons for FS which you have to pay for? Quite a few. If you want a collection of high fidelity models with all the bells and whistles you have to pay for it. I have seen just one extra aircraft be up for sale and not exactly at a low shareware price.

Also you have to look at how much money FS has made for Microsoft. Probably has paid for itself so MS aren't too bothered about any lost income due to allowing 3rd party modders to add new flyable aircraft. I bet some of the bigger third parties who release expansion packs have to pay some sort of fee to do it, at least to have official MS support and backup.

Like TLAM said DW is a spinoff in effect of SCS's military work with many of the dev tools and stuff paid for by the US govt. Ah American taxpayers have fianlly done me a favour

So we can't get the dlls....

[Ula Jolly]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Have you seen the number of third party addons for FS which you have to pay for? Quite a few. If you want a collection of high fidelity models with all the bells and whistles you have to pay for it. I have seen just one extra aircraft be up for sale and not exactly at a low shareware price.

Also you have to look at how much money FS has made for Microsoft. Probably has paid for itself so MS aren't too bothered about any lost income due to allowing 3rd party modders to add new flyable aircraft. I bet some of the bigger third parties who release expansion packs have to pay some sort of fee to do it, at least to have official MS support and backup.

Like TLAM said DW is a spinoff in effect of SCS's military work with many of the dev tools and stuff paid for by the US govt. Ah American taxpayers have fianlly done me a favour

So we can't get the dlls....

If I remember correctly from the days when I daily toured the Flightsim.com-libraries, the extreme lion's bite is free. It may be that the very best addons are for sale, but some of the very best are also freeware. Countless installed addons on my comp should witness that.
If the problem is a DLL, or more DLL files, could SCS "not simply just" (I have no idea about how great a problem this is...) make it so that the secret information is kept within some files, which will be no-touchies, while what is essential for third-part addons could be okay-touchies?
Well, it's probably not that easy. Nothing is ever as easy as I want it to be, but perhaps SCS could ask their military customers (whoever they signed the deal with that said "No one will be allowed to mess about with these files") if certain snippets from the files could be messed with?
I'm speaking about half metaphorically.