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Wulfmann · 12-25-05, 02:38 PM

CFS3 requires much less PC than SH3. There are certainly many tweaks and in fact it is as stock a total waste of time without you modding it so nothing but the engine and a few things needed are left.

IL-2 is certainly user friendly for the average person but anyone here should know enough about modding to make CFS3 far better than IL-2 has a possibility to ne. But, it is certainly a ton of work to do so.

When MAW is released the flight models will be way ahead of anything done in any flight sim yet. Having the stick 2 patched CFS3 is all that will be needed to add that but it will be huge and either a many CD swap or a DVD or choice.
It has not reached beta stage in the below screen

Wulfmann

Gizzmoe · 12-25-05, 02:58 PM

Guys, if you want to continue to talk about CFS3 then please do that in the "Other Games" forum. Thanks!

Drebbel · 12-25-05, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Guys, if you want to continue to talk about CFS3 then please do that in the "Other Games" forum. Thanks!

Hahah, thread hi-jacking is great. But the moderators might feel it neccessary to split the CFS3 posts into a new thread. Yep, there is an option to do that.

Marhkimov · 12-25-05, 03:13 PM

ah, just leave it... It's not like we have much more CFS3 to talk about... :rotfl:

Trout · 03-01-06, 04:17 PM

Anyone who has read books about life in a submarine knows that the managment of crew members, putting togtether the right team of people in every division of the boat, choosing leaders, looking after morale ect. is a BIG part of the captains job.

I think that there ARE ways to make this a fun (but optional) part of a sub sim. What you need to do is put visible and audible clues throughout the boat that the captain can interpret as signs of morale and crew efficiency. THis also creates a MAJOR reason to model the WHOLE 3d interior and populate it with lifelike crewmen.

SH3 really only scratches the surface of what you can gain in terms of gameplay and sensory immersion from modeling the sub interior.

Trout

Torplexed · 03-01-06, 11:00 PM

I agree the crew modelling in SH3 was never really carried to full execution. But at least they made the first attempt at it for a WW2 sub sim. I don't quite feel like I'm controlling an RC sub like I did in SH2.

Speaking of crews I was thinking it would be neat feature if you could drill your crew for greater efficiency. So if you did test dives on your way to your patrol area it would pay off in cutting a few seconds from your dive time. Too many drills and it starts to cut into crew morale. Maybe after a certain amount of time in port the crew's proficiency begins to fall off so you have to initiate the drill cycle again on your next patrol.

Just something to fill those empty hours at low time compression.

Sir Big Jugs · 03-02-06, 06:34 AM

Marhkimov, last thing bout' CFS3.

Read this:

http://forums.netwings.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4432

Guess who Hurricane_320 is!

Sir Big Jugs · 03-02-06, 06:36 AM

MAW:

http://www.medairwar.com/new.html

OFF:

http://off.oldbrowndog.net/index.htm

Sorry Gizzmoe! These were the last links! I promise!

tautug · 04-18-06, 07:00 PM

In my original post, I wished for between battle things to do in SHIV, primarily for realism but also to not sit and watch a screen for so long.

There should be options once you set a course, like setting watch assignments. Depending on time of day, sitting in the officers mess to go over tactics with XO, etc. An example is you call a meeting in the mess, your officers arrive. A list of strategic options comes up such as setting speed, ride submerged during day, schedule a practice alarm dive, give XO the helm, load a specific configuration of torpedoes, possible radio messages, etc.. Im sure they could find more interesting things, I am just giving a concept.

After those options are set, the captain can retire to his cabin, shower up, go to bed and give command not to disturb for X hours, unleess a sighting or urgent message or problem arises. Essentially you could "sleep" and boat will transition X hours without delay, unless a sighting, etc. is made.

tautug · 04-18-06, 07:00 PM

In my original post, I wished for between battle things to do in SHIV, primarily for realism but also to not sit and watch a screen for so long.

There should be options once you set a course, like setting watch assignments. Depending on time of day, sitting in the officers mess to go over tactics with XO, etc. An example is you call a meeting in the mess, your officers arrive. A list of strategic options comes up such as setting speed, ride submerged during day, schedule a practice alarm dive, give XO the helm, load a specific configuration of torpedoes, possible radio messages, etc.. Im sure they could find more interesting things, I am just giving a concept.

After those options are set, the captain can retire to his cabin, shower up, go to bed and give command not to disturb for X hours, unleess a sighting or urgent message or problem arises. Essentially you could "sleep" and boat will transition X hours without delay, unless a sighting, etc. is made.

cmdrk · 04-19-06, 09:00 AM

tautog,

your post ties into this thread.
http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=50407

I would like the idea.

12-25-05, 02:38 PM	#31
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	CFS3 requires much less PC than SH3. There are certainly many tweaks and in fact it is as stock a total waste of time without you modding it so nothing but the engine and a few things needed are left. IL-2 is certainly user friendly for the average person but anyone here should know enough about modding to make CFS3 far better than IL-2 has a possibility to ne. But, it is certainly a ton of work to do so. When MAW is released the flight models will be way ahead of anything done in any flight sim yet. Having the stick 2 patched CFS3 is all that will be needed to add that but it will be huge and either a many CD swap or a DVD or choice. It has not reached beta stage in the below screen Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

12-25-05, 03:13 PM	#34
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	ah, just leave it... It's not like we have much more CFS3 to talk about... :rotfl: __________________ It takes two to tango

03-01-06, 11:00 PM	#36
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I agree the crew modelling in SH3 was never really carried to full execution. But at least they made the first attempt at it for a WW2 sub sim. I don't quite feel like I'm controlling an RC sub like I did in SH2. Speaking of crews I was thinking it would be neat feature if you could drill your crew for greater efficiency. So if you did test dives on your way to your patrol area it would pay off in cutting a few seconds from your dive time. Too many drills and it starts to cut into crew morale. Maybe after a certain amount of time in port the crew's proficiency begins to fall off so you have to initiate the drill cycle again on your next patrol. Just something to fill those empty hours at low time compression. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

03-02-06, 06:34 AM	#37
Sir Big Jugs Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 895 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Marhkimov, last thing bout' CFS3. Read this: http://forums.netwings.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4432 Guess who Hurricane_320 is! __________________

03-02-06, 06:36 AM	#38
Sir Big Jugs Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 895 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	MAW: http://www.medairwar.com/new.html OFF: http://off.oldbrowndog.net/index.htm Sorry Gizzmoe! These were the last links! I promise! __________________

12-25-05, 02:58 PM	#32
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Guys, if you want to continue to talk about CFS3 then please do that in the "Other Games" forum. Thanks!

03-01-06, 04:17 PM	#35
Trout A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 76 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Anyone who has read books about life in a submarine knows that the managment of crew members, putting togtether the right team of people in every division of the boat, choosing leaders, looking after morale ect. is a BIG part of the captains job. I think that there ARE ways to make this a fun (but optional) part of a sub sim. What you need to do is put visible and audible clues throughout the boat that the captain can interpret as signs of morale and crew efficiency. THis also creates a MAJOR reason to model the WHOLE 3d interior and populate it with lifelike crewmen. SH3 really only scratches the surface of what you can gain in terms of gameplay and sensory immersion from modeling the sub interior. Trout

04-18-06, 07:00 PM	#39
tautug Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 9 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Long Transit Times in SHIV In my original post, I wished for between battle things to do in SHIV, primarily for realism but also to not sit and watch a screen for so long. There should be options once you set a course, like setting watch assignments. Depending on time of day, sitting in the officers mess to go over tactics with XO, etc. An example is you call a meeting in the mess, your officers arrive. A list of strategic options comes up such as setting speed, ride submerged during day, schedule a practice alarm dive, give XO the helm, load a specific configuration of torpedoes, possible radio messages, etc.. Im sure they could find more interesting things, I am just giving a concept. After those options are set, the captain can retire to his cabin, shower up, go to bed and give command not to disturb for X hours, unleess a sighting or urgent message or problem arises. Essentially you could "sleep" and boat will transition X hours without delay, unless a sighting, etc. is made.

04-19-06, 09:00 AM	#41
cmdrk Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 184 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	tautog, your post ties into this thread. http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=50407 I would like the idea.