Conflict in Syria

[mapuc]

Israel is only attacking those who's a threat to their existence.

I agree with Raf1394. We should stay out of this mess which even mean Turkey as well.

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Raf1394

then Egypt or Jordan can just send tanks across the Israeli border, and invade Israel

I seem to recall they already tried such stunts. I further recall it did not work well for them.

Every time.

[Raf1394]

That current conflict in Syria is been going on since 2011.
And it worsened and its a never ending story, because other countries got involved for there own benefits and defence... Russia, Turkey, Israel, The US ect...

Its like the early protests of Syrians demanding more change and freedom and more rights. Erupted in a big revolution and civil war and the country got hijacked by foreign countries. Sad story.

[Skybird]

Still, the Assads ruled for five and a half decades. And the reputation of the father was not any better than that of the son.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I seem to recall they already tried such stunts. I further recall it did not work well for them.

Every time.

I don't think Egypt or Jordan are interested in a military conflict with Israel. Bad for business. Bad for your health.

[mapuc]

Iran may have lost influence in Syria after Assad's exit. This would not prevent them from trying to get a foot inside Syria again.

The question would be-Which rebel group could they support to get back in the seat again ?

This mean that there could very well be a conflict of interest between Turkey and Iran. Both are working on getting influence in Syria.

I could be wrong-Just a standpoint in what may come.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

In the meantime everyone who supported Assad id being murdered and butchered....what a lovely place to reside in.

[Shadowblade]

yeah, "peaceful transfer of power" - Middle East version

[Jimbuna]

Colossal fortune: Assad's gone, but he hasn't lost everything

After 24 years at the helm of Syria, following in the footsteps of his father who ruled for three decades, Bashar al-Assad finally left his country on the sly.

The Arab Spring, resurrected in an expeditious form, ousted him from power, driven by an Islamist rebellion led by the HTS (Hayat Tahrir al-Sham). Abandoned by his long-standing allies, Russia and Iran, absorbed in their own conflicts, he had no choice but to go into exile in Moscow. But while the presidential palace in Damascus burns behind him, his coffers are far from empty.

The former Syrian president fled with his family to the Russian capital, where he still finds a form of protection, even if Vladimir Putin is now keeping his distance. However, it's thanks to Putin that Assad has escaped justice and the vengeance of his opponents. But this salvation doesn't come without a generous supply of money. For despite the fall of his reign, the Assad clan isn't sinking into poverty. Their fortune accumulated over decades of power exceeds one billion dollars, according to the most modest estimates.

American reports from 2022 put their wealth at “between 1 and 2 billion dollars”. This immense wealth is divided between Bashar, his brother, sister, cousins and uncle. Discretion remains as to the assets owned by his children: Hafez, Zein and Karim. Yet behind these figures probably lies a far more impressive fortune, amassed in secret over the past fifty years.

The Assads have perfected the art of concealment. Shell companies, opaque financial arrangements and nominees have enabled the clan to hide their wealth from prying eyes. These complex financial maneuvers were often facilitated by their Russian ally, weaving an invisible but incredibly strong network to protect their wealth.

When the HTS rebels made their decisive breakthrough, a veil was lifted over this hidden opulence. A hangar overflowing with luxury cars revealed a glimpse of the splendor enjoyed by the clan. But these visible treasures are only a tiny part of a fortune carefully buried far from the hustle and bustle of Damascus.

Bashar al-Assad may have lost his throne, but he hasn't lost everything. Behind the walls of his gilded exile, wealth continues to ensure a comfortable future, while the Syria he left behind struggles to rise from the rubble of his reign.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...b2f89fcc&ei=17

[Dargo]

The SDF have agreed a ceasefire with Turkish-backed Syrian rebels in Manbij, an until recently Kurdish-controlled city in northern Syria. The agreement was reached through US mediation, reports SDF commander Mazloum Abdi. According to SDF commander Abdi, the truce was necessary ‘to ensure the safety of civilians in Manbij’. Over the past three days, at least 218 people have been killed in fighting for control of Manbij, reports the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. Kurdish fighters will withdraw from the area ‘as soon as possible’, Abdi said.

Syrian interim Prime Minister Mohammad al-Bashir is calling on Syrian refugees to return to their homeland. He made that call in Corriere della Sera, Italy's most widely read newspaper. It was his first interview with a Western daily. Although Bashir will hold the post for only a few months, he will be in charge during an important period. He will have to demonstrate to the international community that minorities are safe under the rule of HTS Islamists. Partly due to the unclear political situation in Syria, the Dutch government decided on Monday not to make any decisions on asylum applications from Syrians for the next six months. ‘My appeal to all Syrians abroad: come back,’ Bashir told Corriere. ‘Syria is now a free country, which has regained its pride and dignity.’ According to Bashir, the new government's first agenda item is to bring stability and security back to Syria. This requires the second action point he mentions: bringing back millions of Syrians who have fled. ‘This human capital is needed to revive the country.’

Syrian rebel leader Ahmed al-Sharaa (previously acting under his militant name Abu Mohammed al-Jolani) made it clear on Wednesday that those involved in torturing prisoners will not be pardoned. In recent days, thousands were freed from the Assad clan's notorious prisons. ‘We will not pardon those involved in torturing and eliminating prisoners and we will persecute them in our country,’ al-Sharaa said. He called on other countries to extradite all criminals who have fled so that they can be tried.

German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock has urged Turkey and Israel not to jeopardise the peaceful transition in Syria after the fall of Bashar al-Assad. ‘If we want a peaceful Syria, its territorial integrity must not be called into question, and neighbours like the Turkish and Israeli governments, who assert security interests, must not jeopardise the process by their actions,’ Baerbock told a press briefing in Berlin. ‘Syria must not again become the plaything of foreign forces or powers,’ the German minister warned. Berlin wants to ‘promote positive developments in Syria in close cooperation with its partners and prevent negative influences’, she stressed.

The tomb of Hafez al-Assad is in the centre of his hometown of Qardaha, in northwestern Syria. Assad was in power from 1971 to 2000. He died in June 2000 at the age of 69. His son Bashar, who was 34 at the time, succeeded him. Bashar's brother Basil was the actual heir to the throne, but he was killed in a car accident. Photos and videos show how Syrian rebels set fire to parts of the mausoleum, and the former president's coffin, and then waved the Syrian flag. One of the pictures shows the destroyed coffin lying burnt out in front of the mausoleum. In another picture, a rebel smiles broadly at the camera while standing on the coffin. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights confirmed to news agency ‘AFP’ that the tomb was badly damaged after the arson attack. Last weekend, rebels also took down a statue of Hafez al-Assad in central Damascus.

[Jimbuna]

[Dargo]

What will happen in Syria is unclear. The SDF and the HTS are now the two main actors left in Syria. If both can strike a deal, and I think they will. Both can bring back Syria into calmer waters, however, HTS I still not convinced they walk the talk, but it can not rule Syria alone reason for this offensive was economic problems because of the sanctions as for the SDF it has the majority of oil and backing of the west hope this will go good it is important for the region.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

What will happen in Syria is unclear. The SDF and the HTS are now the two main actors left in Syria. If both can strike a deal, and I think they will. Both can bring back Syria into calmer waters, however, HTS I still not convinced they walk the talk, but it can not rule Syria alone reason for this offensive was economic problems because of the sanctions as for the SDF it has the majority of oil and backing of the west hope this will go good it is important for the region.

And to keep Iran out of influence in the country. Wish Turkey could stay out as well.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Putin rejects Assad's request for Syrian mercenaries to back his regime

Russian President Vladimir Putin refused to send Syrian mercenaries from the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine to assist Bashar al-Assad's regular army. This led to the leader losing control over Syria, according to the National Resistance Center of Ukraine (NRC).

Assad asked the Russian president for military assistance and to release Syrian mercenaries, who had been sent by the Russians to fight in Ukraine, to defend his regime. However, Putin refused his "ally" and effectively lost Syria.

The NRC reminded that this is not the first time Putin has betrayed his "allies" in pursuit of at least some success in Ukraine.

"Previously, the leader did not come to Armenia’s aid because all combat-ready Russian units are in a meat grinder for the sake of the Kremlin’s aggressive ambitions," the NRC stated.

Last week, the insurgents of the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham group seized key cities in Syria, including the capital Damascus. Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, along with his family, left the country and sought refuge in Russia.

The rebels' victorious rapid offensive was achieved thanks to Abu Mohammad al-Julani. To achieve his objectives, he abandoned his jihadist image in favor of more moderate views.

The Iranian government also refused to assist Assad's rebels.

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has not ruled out the possibility of Putin seeking revenge for the collapse of Assad's regime.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...2791198a&ei=54

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

And to keep Iran out of influence in the country. Wish Turkey could stay out as well.

Markus

Think Turkey is told today to dim in exchange for guarantees by the US. Iran has to rebuild its lines if a new government can prevent factions in Syria to work with Iran and is strong enough to keep Iran out. Do not forget Israel, it will do everything to prevent Turkey and Iran to get a too great foothold in Syria.