Crash

[Rybak]

Hi
Now I know why I do not have contact merchant ships on the hydrophone. The problem is the mod:
Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC_OTC
Sonarman given bearing, only hydrophone can not hear the ship.
Only after I have a good set of mods and everyone uses them.
Pity me with the great ISP 2.6. Help

I'm sorry for my English.


1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
1.5_Optical Targeting Correction 031312 for RSRDCv502
1.5_OTC_Realistic Scopes for 8 to 5 RSRDCv502
Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC_OTC
OTC_ISP_Crew Mod

[Aktungbby]

Haraldsson! & Rybak!

[Haraldsson]

Originally Posted by Haraldsson

Thanks for the replies, guys. I added the patch mods that were prescribed and I now have the following mods loaded in this order:

1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1

I still get a crash to desktop during the initial load of the game. Any other ideas for something I could be missing?

Thanks,

Chris.

Considering this latest information on my situation, does anyone have any other ideas of things I might check? To recapitulate, trigger maru 2.5 works fine by itself, but as soon as I add RSRDC I get a crash to desktop as soon as I open the game.

Thanks,

Chris.

[propbeanie]

Check your mod folder structure for all your mods. Should be:

[Game folder] / [Silent Hunter] / MODS / [ModName] / Data / [BlahBlah]

As an example, I'm noodling with Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate v.1beta. I have a folder on my E: drive named "Ubisoft" that I installed my Silent Hunter to, and I re-named the game's folder from Silent Hunter to "SH4v15FotRSU" so that I wouldn't confuse the install with my regular Silent Hunter and my GFO modded one. (I use MultiSH to save to different directories for all my installs.) I then enable the "100FallOfTheRisingSunUltimate" mod and do me some testing. My folder structure for that mod is:

E:\ Ubisoft \ SH4v15FotRSU \ MODS \ 100FallOfTheRisingSunUltimate \ Data \ [bunch of other folders and files]

There is also a "Support" folder under the "100Fall..." mod folder. Some mods have alternate mods under their "title" folder, so the main mod may be a folder or two deep, and isn't actually getting enabled by JSGME, even though it might look like it. I'd suspect a patch file or two in your case. Your MODS folder has to have the mod's folder, and then the Data folder right below it.

You might also be running into the 2gig memory limit, but check your mods first, and report back...
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[Haraldsson]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Check your mod folder structure for all your mods. Should be:

[Game folder] / [Silent Hunter] / MODS / [ModName] / Data / [BlahBlah]

As an example, I'm noodling with Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate v.1beta. I have a folder on my E: drive named "Ubisoft" that I installed my Silent Hunter to, and I re-named the game's folder from Silent Hunter to "SH4v15FotRSU" so that I wouldn't confuse the install with my regular Silent Hunter and my GFO modded one. (I use MultiSH to save to different directories for all my installs.) I then enable the "100FallOfTheRisingSunUltimate" mod and do me some testing. My folder structure for that mod is:

E:\ Ubisoft \ SH4v15FotRSU \ MODS \ 100FallOfTheRisingSunUltimate \ Data \ [bunch of other folders and files]

There is also a "Support" folder under the "100Fall..." mod folder. Some mods have alternate mods under their "title" folder, so the main mod may be a folder or two deep, and isn't actually getting enabled by JSGME, even though it might look like it. I'd suspect a patch file or two in your case. Your MODS folder has to have the mod's folder, and then the Data folder right below it.

You might also be running into the 2gig memory limit, but check your mods first, and report back...
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I checked the location of the mods as you suggested. They are all located in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific\MODS

Within the MODS folder, there is the following list of other folders along with a txt and an ini:

!BACKUP
!NSTLOGS
1_TMO_25_small_patch
1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
JSGME file snapshot.txt
JSGME.ini

In that order.

Also, I probably should have noted initially that when I use JSGME to enable RSRDC_TMO_V502 I get the following message from JSGME:

"Enabling this mod *may* have adverse effects on your game. Are you sure you wish to enable this mod?"

I get this message along with a humongous list of files that have "already been altered by ...et cetera..."

I did as you advised and ensured that all of the mod folders contain their respective "data" folders directly beneath them. I found that "RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1" had within it a subfolder also named "RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1" which finally had the "data" folder within it. IE, two levels removed. I moved the "data" folder to be directly beneath the main folder, re-enabled the mods, and still get the crash to desktop during the loading screen, about when the loading bar is 75% complete.

Thanks for the help thus far,

Chris.

[Rockin Robbins]

First of all, you should have your games installed outside the system protected Program Files (x86) directory. Propbeanie has a root directory called Ubisoft. You can have Steam install games anywhere you want and that's change #1 that you need.

Second, JSGME warns you any time when you are overwriting a file already in a previously installed mod. RSRDC steamrollers TMO, leaving it mostly overwritten and you are playing something very different from TMO when you install it. JSGME is alerting you that things that TMO modified before are being removed/replaced by RSRDC and that's how RSRDC is supposed to work (unfortunately). In other circumstances it might be a problem, but you want RSRDC so just let 'er rip.

Make sure your install order is
TMO
Small patch
RSRDC
RSRDC patch

Those two changes should fix your problem. Keep us posted!

Afterthought: how much RAM do you have? Have you enabled the 4GB aware patch to SH4?

[max-peck]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

First of all, you should have your games installed outside the system protected Program Files (x86) directory. Propbeanie has a root directory called Ubisoft. You can have Steam install games anywhere you want and that's change #1 that you need.

Seconded

When I had SH4 installed in the default steam directory, I could not get mods to work - Windows views it as a protected folder

I Made a separate folder on the top level of my C Drive, I called it Games-Steam (you can call it whatever you want) - and downloaded the game inti it

Once I did this Mods worked just fine

[Haraldsson]

Thank you to everyone who replied. Moving the game out of the (x86) folder did the trick. Thanks again, guys.

Chris.