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What a horrible thing to do. The sentence is deserved but I've never been at peace with charging minors as adults.
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A combination of USA paranoia and Laws gone over the edge, thanks to that ignoramus, Bush and cronies, and a stupid kid, who and his parents, should know better.
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While this definitely deserves some form of punishment 25 years is something not even a lot of murderers get here. Totally exaggerated especially considering that it's a 15 years old.
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Are they crazy ?
This was a prank, if a bad one, from a 15-year-old boy ! 25 years ?! Does the US version of criminal law relating to young offenders really say that ?? Post 9/11 paranoia and "threat level" hype US style ![]() ![]() |
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It's not a prank is the point. The victims Dad was shot in the raid.
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Perhaps you missed the part where the targets father was shot. This kid attempted murder. That's definitely worth 25 years.
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He deserves punishing so he realises that his stupidity has serious consequences but as others have said it seems a little OTT, 18-24 months in a young offenders prison I think would have been more suitable.
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I am not writing that I agree with the sentence, but it is more than a prank. Bet he won't be doing that again.
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he is no different then those kids who threw a big rock off the overpass into an oncoming cars windshield and killed a mother driving with her husband and kid and the kid saw his moms brains out all over the seat. stop looking at the image or impression of what you think the image of the criminal is and look at the victims and their families when fun and games gets people killed. this doesn't matter anyway because they are sending a message and in a year or two they will reduce his sentence to time served and he will only do about 2 years of actual jail time I bet |
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After all that's been said here, I only have one problem with the current prison system. I just hope he doesn't get a Masters degree in crime while at Crime University. Otherwise he'll become hopelessly entangled in a vicious closed loop.
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A rather high sentence!
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There is only so far you can go with discipline today in the USA. I've no idea what this kids parents are like but they may have done all they could without child protective services knocking on the door.
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Im a huge proponent of personal responsibility this kid is responsible for his actions, when i was 15 i knew the difference between right and wrong, and while i might have crank called a hardware store asking for left handed screw drivers, or underhanded hammers or whatever... i would have NEVER in my wildest dreams phoned in a fake murder to get the cops to raid someone's home the punk got exactly what he deserved... especially since the innocent resident of the home could have died from his injuries. I wont blame the parents on this one, though they surely are responsible for some of this mess... the kid knew what he was doing when he phoned in the false report, he should have known better. I would say let him sit in federal prison for at least 5 or 6 years, then overturn the sentence. what a moron.
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