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Old 04-11-14, 09:06 AM   #31
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I don't see the problem. "We were here first" is not a very strong argument in this case.
Particularly when you weren't.
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Old 04-11-14, 09:39 AM   #32
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Particularly when you weren't.
Exactly.

I find it disturbing that these days, so many are willing to fight for something without knowing what they are fighting for. Especially in the US (but not only), it seems as long as the enemy is the government, they feel they are fighting for a just cause, no matter what the facts actually are.

Also, some media is going just silly with this. "They attacked woman with cancer!". Excuse me if I sound cold, but so what? Pregnant? So what? She shouldn't be there in the first place, especially if one is pregnant. It's called equality, everyone gets the same treatment (except for celebs, because.. uh..)
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Old 04-11-14, 01:39 PM   #33
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The Native Americans were here first too. Look how that worked out for them.
Plain and simple, if people are sitting on what you want, you make them your enemy so you can justify the taking of it. The natives weren't the savages they were painted to be by the so called good Christian folk from Europe. I wonder how many false flag events were staged in the days of the early settlers to make their theft of land a just one? After all, history is written by the victors.
Our government has become so used to doing whatever it wants to whoever it wants whenever it wants that they can now do anything to anybody anytime without fear of repercussion. Even if they have to break the law to do so.
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Old 04-11-14, 02:03 PM   #34
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The Native Americans were here first too. Look how that worked out for them.
Plain and simple, if people are sitting on what you want, you make them your enemy so you can justify the taking of it. The natives weren't the savages they were painted to be by the so called good Christian folk from Europe. I wonder how many false flag events were staged in the days of the early settlers to make their theft of land a just one? After all, history is written by the victors.
Our government has become so used to doing whatever it wants to whoever it wants whenever it wants that they can now do anything to anybody anytime without fear of repercussion. Even if they have to break the law to do so.
Yes but at the end of the day this rancher agreed to terms on grazing.
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And is now in breach of the terms of his agreement by not paying the fees he agreed to pay.
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Old 04-11-14, 03:55 PM   #36
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Yes but at the end of the day this rancher agreed to terms on grazing.
Exactly. He agreed to pay, and if we REALLY want to go that way, the native American's were there first, end of thread. Bundy can fight all he wants, but little bit I wish it will go like Waco, few less oxycen thiefs..
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Old 04-11-14, 03:56 PM   #37
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News stuff must be slow.
So where's the mass movement of Militia?

Only one Nut Case claims 'They be a comin!'


Just glad I ain't near Nevada. I always get pulled over in that Screwed up state!
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Old 04-11-14, 04:12 PM   #38
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Not while there's breath in Jim or I no.
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Plain and simple, if people are sitting on what you want, you make them your enemy so you can justify the taking of it.
That's exactly what this idiot Bundy did, it isn't working out too well for him is it.
Now that he owes his "enemy" $1million and counting I wonder if they will take the 150 acres of scrub that he actually owns as settlement of his debt?
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I figured that.
Now I must retreat to my basement and plot.


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That's exactly what this idiot Bundy did, it isn't working out too well for him is it.
Now that he owes his "enemy" $1million and counting I wonder if they will take the 150 acres of scrub that he actually owns as settlement of his debt?
And the cattle.

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If he agreed to pay to graze? He nullified any past claims.
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If he agreed to pay to graze? He nullified any past claims.
He never had any claim to the land.
He paid for a licence to graze land he doesn't own but then stopped paying the owners.

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And the cattle.
Not only that Tarjak , as his cattle are illegally trespassing he is going to get stuck with the costs of their removal too.
His protests and appeals to der militias to come and protest are just throwing him further into debt by upping the cost of the removal.
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Exactly.

I find it disturbing that these days, so many are willing to fight for something without knowing what they are fighting for. Especially in the US (but not only), it seems as long as the enemy is the government, they feel they are fighting for a just cause, no matter what the facts actually are.
As Mark Twain once said (supposedly) "Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about."
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...if we REALLY want to go that way, the native American's were there first
I believe the current theory is that the so called "native" Americans are at least the third wave of immigrants to the new world.
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http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/
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