"Not trying to be racist" is racist

[periunder]

I just got disgusted once again in our world. People are having issues that the Saturday Night Live cast isn't "diversified" enough. What does that have to do with anything? Why should people be hired based on race and not qualifications? Hiring, to be diversified, is racist. We should hire the best, not the person who will make the workplace most diversified!

In fact I think its even more racist than hiring one race only. Because at least one your hiring one race only your not hiding your racist or pretending not to be racist, when in fact you are. Call it as you see I suppose.


What the hell is wrong with this country and why is everyone falling for this trick?

People should be hired based on qualifications, not race!

Many corporations out there are proud that their working force is the most diversified. But if you are hiring based on race, in any magnitude, then your hiring process is racist. Darden Restaurants is one such company (Olive Garden, Red Lobster, etc..)

[Skybird]

The tyranny of quota-based administration, may it be race, may it be gender, may it migration background, may it be sexual orientation. It's all over the Western world, it seems.

Trust in Karma. Deeds are followed by consequences, consequences will find and eat us, no matter the intention, the idea, the opinion.

That is fate well-deserved.

[BrucePartington]

Originally Posted by periunder

I just got disgusted once again in our world. People are having issues that the Saturday Night Live cast isn't "diversified" enough. What does that have to do with anything? Why should people be hired based on race on not qualifications alone? Hiring to be diversified is racist.
In fact I think its even more racist than hiring one race only. Because at least one your hiring one race only your not hiding your racist or pretending not to be racist, when in fact you are. Call it as you see I suppose.


What the hell is wrong with this country and why is everyone falling for this trick?

People should be hired based on qualifications, not race!

Many corporations out there are proud that their working force is the most diversified. But if you are hiring based on race, in any magnitude, then your hiring process is racist. Darden Restaurants is one such company (Olive Garden, Red Lobster, etc..)

Amen to that.

[VipertheSniper]

Cry me a river

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/1...ting-there-is/

[Onkel Neal]

In the role playing game known as The Real World, “Straight White Male” is the lowest difficulty setting there is.

Or... perhaps SWM just has mad skillz and gained their advatages over time.

Women, young people must save U.S. from men 'behaving stupidly' Redford, senile? Or just soft-headed?

[VipertheSniper]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Or... perhaps SWM just has mad skillz and gained their advatages over time.

Women, young people must save U.S. from men 'behaving stupidly' Redford, senile? Or just soft-headed?

Problem is, even when non-SWM have caught up it's still harder for most them.

Also taken in context to the other things Redford said I don't think he's too far off the mark. It really does seem rather silly what happens on Capitol Hill. And hell, why not give more women a chance at the helm where they can actually accomplish something.

I don't have time to dig up a link now, but basically there was a survey that said a majority is for the Affordable Healthcare Act, but also against "Obamacare".

[AVGWarhawk]

For ACA but against Obamacare. That is rich. And typical America.

But yes, the SWM is on the chopping block. Oh well, the women can have a go. Good luck!

Redford needs to stick to movies.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

Problem is, even when non-SWM have caught up it's still harder for most them.

Also taken in context to the other things Redford said I don't think he's too far off the mark. It really does seem rather silly what happens on Capitol Hill. And hell, why not give more women a chance at the helm where they can actually accomplish something.

I don't have time to dig up a link now, but basically there was a survey that said a majority is for the Affordable Healthcare Act, but also against "Obamacare".

Yes, those are idiots who do not know any better, fooled by the name (ACA) but they are intelligent enough to know if it is anything to do with obama, it is garbage.

Those of us who pay attention, know the law under any name, is a monstrosity that will give us a big shove toward the edge.

[periunder]

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

Cry me a river

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/1...ting-there-is/

Comparing the real world with a role-playing game that white males are the easy difficulty is ignorant and simply over the top.

In fact, medium or hard difficulty players may have access to things the easy difficulty players don't So the analogy sucks!

You live in Austria? Have you ever lived in the USA for more than say 15 years? And during that time were you a non-immigrant white male? Because that is about the least amount of time to really tell how things are here. The easy difficulty is slowly becoming the hard difficulty in your stupid role-playing game. And its a gradual and evolving transition that hasn't stopped, and seems to be accelorating.

So, Austria, what do you know about America?

[Bubblehead1980]

A huge part of what is wrong with the United States is that for oh 50 years now we have had these racist policy known as affirmative action.This cancer of a law has entrenched itself in public and private sector.The long term effects of this monstrosity is that the best and brightest do not always get hired, admitted, etc and we as a nation have suffered because of it. Really, we all know who the greatest affirmative action hire was and we see how well that is working out for us

[periunder]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

A huge part of what is wrong with the United States is that for oh 50 years now we have had these racist policy known as affirmative action.This cancer of a law has entrenched itself in public and private sector.The long term effects of this monstrosity is that the best and brightest do not always get hired, admitted, etc and we as a nation have suffered because of it. Really, we all know who the greatest affirmative action hire was and we see how well that is working out for us

Although, I did vote for Obama in 2008, you are right. Many African Americans and even younger people of other races and many females voted for him just because he was African American.

I voted for him in 08 because it was him or McCain, which most certainly would have led to an invasion of Iran. And we don't need another war.

[VipertheSniper]

Originally Posted by periunder

Comparing the real world with a role-playing game that white males are the easy difficulty is ignorant and simply over the top.

In fact, medium or hard difficulty players may have access to things the easy difficulty players don't So the analogy sucks!

You live in Austria? Have you ever lived in the USA for more than say 15 years? And during that time were you a non-immigrant white male? Because that is about the least amount of time to really tell how things are here. The easy difficulty is slowly becoming the hard difficulty in your stupid role-playing game. And its a gradual and evolving transition that hasn't stopped, and seems to be accelorating.

So, Austria, what do you know about America?

Playing on easiest difficulty doesn't mean you can sit on your ass and everything will be handed to you on a silver platter, you'll still have to work hard for it, but you'll still have it easier than more than half of the potential workforce to get ahead because of what you are. Because whether you realized it or not, a straight white male in the western world gets preferential treatment.

I'm actually not a fan of quota's because they can lead to things like MattJ describes in the first part of his post (which is still only anecdotal evidence of a single incident), but as long as it isn't ingrained in our subconscious that we're all people of the same value, regardless of skin color or gender, crutches like this will be needed.

For the second part I would really like to see a citation, or what it was, that this student put on those flyers. Also having the right to free speech, doesn't make you immune to the consequences of it.

[Oberon]

Yeah, but what do we dumb You-rope-peons know about Murca?

[periunder]

Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

Playing on easiest difficulty doesn't mean you can sit on your ass and everything will be handed to you on a silver platter, you'll still have to work hard for it, but you'll still have it easier than more than half of the potential workforce to get ahead because of what you are. Because whether you realized it or not, a straight white male in the western world gets preferential treatment.

I'm actually not a fan of quota's because they can lead to things like MattJ describes in the first part of his post (which is still only anecdotal evidence of a single incident), but as long as it isn't ingrained in our subconscious that we're all people of the same value, regardless of skin color or gender, crutches like this will be needed.

For the second part I would really like to see a citation, or what it was, that this student put on those flyers. Also having the right to free speech, doesn't make you immune to the consequences of it.

You speak as if its the 1960's still. It isn't Things change. Being white is becoming a burden the further we get into the future.

[Tchocky]

Hey and why isn't there a White History Month?

It's not fair and the world's against me. I'd contact the National Association for the Advancement of White People but apparently that makes me a racist.

Makes me sick. You know black people only vote based on race? And they call ME racist.