How many of you have served in the Armed Service? - Page 3

Schroeder · 12-08-12, 04:54 AM

German Army
Mechanized Infantry
2001-2002
(Just the ordinary 9 months service for draftees....and I was a pencil pusher which makes me the worst of the worst

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Stealhead · 12-08-12, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Nope I wasn't there. That was an 82nd Airborne and USMC show and they did a great job. What you're describing is the normal course of events in any conflict man has ever fought. Fighting a war is an enormously complex and chaotic operation with many pitfalls and plain bad luck. The best army is the one that can adapt, improvise and overcome the many problems that always crop up and still get the mission accomplished, which apparently is exactly what those officers you mention did. Kudos to them.

Any armed force that does not have some good NCOs and good middle range officers is not going to perform very well in my opinion.Those are the people that have to adapt when things go wrong which they always will.It does even have to be in combat either just with general operations there always seems to be a monkey wrench at least in my experience that has to be over come.

ETR3(SS) · 12-13-12, 10:35 AM

USN Submarine Force. Details below.

Gerald · 12-13-12, 11:16 AM

I wonder if there are many conscientious objectors here...

Platapus · 12-13-12, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

I wonder if there are many conscientious objectors here...

Depends on how you define it?

Absent of a draft, one could assume that everyone who chooses not to volunteer for service can be a conscientious objector.

It is tough being a conchie when there is no draft.

Gerald · 12-13-12, 07:40 PM

Right!

Jimbuna · 12-13-12, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

Right!

Wrong actually.. post your own thoughts and stop calling people out.

Interesting couple of PM's from folk who have been on IRC tonight.

Gerald · 12-13-12, 07:54 PM

Not wrong at all, I have previously stated I have served,not in this thread but in other threads and it should be known,so here you get the answer again, in the Swedish Navy in the years 1979-1984.And your service?

Jimbuna · 12-13-12, 07:57 PM

No comment.

I could be a consci but then again I have two wound scars to prove otherwise and there are people on this forum here who have seen them.

Gerald · 12-13-12, 08:04 PM

You've got some nerve, I have not questioned your wounds,and did not know this.

Stealhead · 12-13-12, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Depends on how you define it?

Absent of a draft, one could assume that everyone who chooses not to volunteer for service can be a conscientious objector.

It is tough being a conchie when there is no draft.

Not really you can be a conscientious objector only thing is you make that choice way back at MEPS when you first enlist after that is very hard to change it from what I understand.
After that point you talk to your CO and a shrink. and go through some lengthy process this is to keep someone from not deploying because they "suddenly had a change of heart" which i agree with if you are truly a conscientious objector you have felt that way all of your life.

At least when I enlisted at some point on some paper work here or there they did ask that question.I never meet anyone in the Air Force that was a conscientious objector though.

Conscientious objectors have even be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...tious_objector)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Doss

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_G._LaPointe,_Jr.

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	I wonder if there are many conscientious objectors here... __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Right! __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

12-13-12, 07:54 PM	#38
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Not wrong at all, I have previously stated I have served,not in this thread but in other threads and it should be known,so here you get the answer again, in the Swedish Navy in the years 1979-1984.And your service? __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

12-13-12, 07:57 PM	#39
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,481 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	No comment. I could be a consci but then again I have two wound scars to prove otherwise and there are people on this forum here who have seen them. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-13-12, 08:04 PM	#40
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	You've got some nerve, I have not questioned your wounds,and did not know this. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie