With Day of Protests, Fast-Food Workers Seek More Pay

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Answer the question....would you promote the deadwood in your business? Would you give them a raise in pay?

I don't own a business. I also don't have a business background. I cannot speak from managerial experience because I do not have any.

How do you handle the grade curve in your classroom? It's a trap, AVG. It's not even a particularly good one. You want me to say I'll fire them so you can say "See, I told you." Unfortunately, the issue is that there are millions who are great employees and remain stuck making minimum wage. You can try and duck it all you want, but it's still the fact.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I don't own a business. I also don't have a business background. I cannot speak from managerial experience because I do not have any.

That shouldn't matter. You can be a CEO if you just "work hard".

1. Be a mail clerk
2. Work hard
3. ????
4. Profit!

Originally Posted by Stealhead

though you must not no any car detailers because they can make a good deal of money.

$15,000 a year on average. Wonder how many of them are on the Forbes list.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That shouldn't matter. You can be a CEO if you just "work hard".

I know. It's my fault that I am so lazy. I'll go sit in the corner.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I don't own a business. I also don't have a business background. I cannot speak from managerial experience because I do not have any.

How do you handle the grade curve in your classroom? It's a trap, AVG. It's not even a particularly good one. You want me to say I'll fire them so you can say "See, I told you." Unfortunately, the issue is that there are millions who are great employees and remain stuck making minimum wage. You can try and duck it all you want, but it's still the fact.

Tak, no one would promote or increase pay to anyone who sits on their duff watching the clock. I do not care if you are a teacher or candlestick maker. Logic dictates deadwood gets shown the door, is not promoted or increased in wage. Unless of course there is tenure or a union involved. As a teacher do you want to discuss the teachers that have consistent poor performing students yearly but are there every opening new school year?

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Tak, no one would promote or increase pay to anyone who sits on their duff watching the clock. I do not care if you are a teacher or candlestick maker. Logic dictates deadwood gets shown the door, is not promoted or increased in wage. Unless of course there is tenure or a union involved. As a teacher do you want to discuss the teachers that have consistent poor performing students yearly but are there every opening new school year?

Okay, so we are back to the fact that the poor are poor becuse they are lazy.

Lazy people perform poorly at work, therefore poor people are lazy. I'm starting to get dizzy from all this circular logic.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That shouldn't matter. You can be a CEO if you just "work hard".

1. Be a mail clerk
2. Work hard
3. ????
4. Profit!



$15,000 a year on average. Wonder how many of them are on the Forbes list.

Mookie, do you ever see any good in the world or your situation?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Okay, so we are back to the fact that the poor are poor becuse they are lazy.

Lazy people perform poorly at work, therefore poor people are lazy. I'm starting to get dizzy from all this circular logic.

Tak, you are beating a dead horse. But to satiate your question.

Yes, by and large, lazy people do not get ahead and are generally poor as a result. I really do not believe you will find anyone who is doing the bear minimum getting ahead. It is the way of the world.

Want to talk about tenure and the deadwood teaching kids?

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Tak, you are beating a dead horse. But to satiate your question.

I am raising it because it is the only argument you are making. It's also false, but I am in no way interested in trying to dissaude you of it. It's your stance and you are happy with it. Just don't go saying it and then claiming that you are saying something else.

Yes, by and large, lazy people do not get ahead and are generally poor as a result. I really do not believe you will find anyone who is doing the bear minimum getting ahead. It is the way of the world.

Finally. Intellectual honesty has been achieved. My work is done here.

Want to talk about tenure and the deadwood teaching kids?

Sure. Where would you like to start? And let's be sure to include learning disabilities and horrific family lives. Also, understand that you can't just fire your students.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

As a teacher do you want to discuss the teachers that have consistent poor performing students yearly but are there every opening new school year?

As a teacher in training, I do. How does one relate to the other?

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Mookie, do you ever see any good in the world or your situation?

Of course I do. But when someone is called lazy or otherwise denigrated for using their rights to petition for a living wage at their job, it makes me want to call out the people doing the shaming.

[AVGWarhawk]

Sure. Where would you like to start? And let's be sure to include learning disabilities and horrific family lives. Also, understand that you can't just fire your students.

Tak, I have a wife in the school system who works with autistic kids. Throwing out the excuses as to why not is not necessary. I understand a lot.

Finally. Intellectual honesty has been achieved. My work is done here.

Congratulations. Your hard work and perseverance has paid off. People should try that on the job and see how it works out.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

As a teacher in training, I do. How does one relate to the other?

Homework completion is critical to earning good grades. Generally speaking, 10-year-olds don't like doing homework. Responsble parents are needed to keep the students doing said homework. Without a supportive home life, students fall through the cracks.

In terms of learning disabilities, there are numerous conditions that will limit a student's capacity to sit and learn in a classroom, as well as complete that homework from above. These also influence academic performance.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Of course I do. But when someone is called lazy or otherwise denigrated for using their rights to petition for a living wage at their job, it makes me want to call out the people doing the shaming.

Yes, I demand better wages for watching the vat. Well, there is a line of people behind you wanting a job and watching the vat at minimum wage looks to be ok. Reality is something different. It has little to do with laziness. Pay is commensurate with the job at hand.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Homework completion is critical to earning good grades. Generally speaking, 10-year-olds don't like doing homework. Responsble parents are needed to keep the students doing said homework. Without a supportive home life, students fall through the cracks.

In terms of learning disabilities, there are numerous conditions that will limit a student's capacity to sit and learn in a classroom, as well as complete that homework from above. These also influence academic performance.

I agree 150%. These need to be accounted for but generally are not when assessing teachers.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Tak, I have a wife in the school system who works with autistic kids. Throwing out the excuses as to why not is not necessary. I understand a lot.

Well, that's comforting to know. Your previous statements left me wondering.