Chinese carrier in landing and take-off tests - Page 3

Jimbuna · 11-26-12, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

China is so far behind it would take 50 years of massive effort and spending before they could ever be a threat in the sea.

I'm not so sure that is the case in areas close to home and where the US don't have a carrier battle group on station.

Oberon · 11-26-12, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'm not so sure that is the case in areas close to home and where the US don't have a carrier battle group on station.

Not many places where that isn't the case. There's usually a CBG or two sitting in or near Japan within easy reach of anywhere along the Chinese coastline and surrounding area.

Karle94 · 11-26-12, 03:10 PM

Why be afraid of it? The J-15/SU-33 can`t take off with much fuel and arnament and is as such practically useless. Only cats can launch a plane fully fueled and armed. A feature only American and French carriers both present and future will have.

Armistead · 11-26-12, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'm not so sure that is the case in areas close to home and where the US don't have a carrier battle group on station.

We will always know where it is...

danasan · 11-26-12, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Well I've yet to see a carrier based aircraft from a certain scandinavian country

Oh, they've had them for decades...

Gerald · 11-26-12, 03:33 PM

TLAM Strike · 11-26-12, 03:41 PM

In other news this got its first flight earlier this month...

nikimcbee · 11-26-12, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by danasan

Oh, they've had them for decades...

Saab?

Jimbuna · 11-26-12, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Not many places where that isn't the case. There's usually a CBG or two sitting in or near Japan within easy reach of anywhere along the Chinese coastline and surrounding area.

Only for as long as the US continue to fund such assets.

danasan · 11-26-12, 03:58 PM

Saab, but solid as a Volvo

Jimbuna · 11-26-12, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Karle94

Why be afraid of it? The J-15/SU-33 can`t take off with much fuel and arnament and is as such practically useless. Only cats can launch a plane fully fueled and armed. A feature only American and French carriers both present and future will have.

Good point but times are changing austerity measure wise.

danasan · 11-26-12, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Only for as long as the US continue to fund such assets.

That is a good point, Jim. I wonder how long will the USA continue their politics regarding Taiwan etc. ...

Oberon · 11-26-12, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Karle94

Why be afraid of it? The J-15/SU-33 can`t take off with much fuel and arnament and is as such practically useless. Only cats can launch a plane fully fueled and armed. A feature only American and French carriers both present and future will have.

The J-15 is not exactly a top line fighter, it's not a bad fighter but its engines are...not brilliant and are probably the weakest part of the whole design.
It probably has better sensors than the Su-33, and the AAMs aren't to be sniffed at...but yes, she most likely has shorter legs than a Hornet and they don't have any carrier bourne tankers at the moment.

Still, it's baby steps, the Liaoning was basically intended as a trainer ship, to get pilots and sailors into the frame of mind of carrier operations in a manner that a chalk outline in the middle of nowhere can't do. The next two carriers are, I believe, under construction now or are due to be started very shortly.

Jimbuna · 11-26-12, 04:09 PM

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That is a good point, Jim. I wonder how long will the USA continue their politics regarding Taiwan etc. ...

IMHO the Chinese are playing a waiting game whilst slowly building up their own military capability.

I DO NOT wish them success because it is possible that strategy will eventually lead to global conflict.

Oberon · 11-26-12, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Only for as long as the US continue to fund such assets.

True, but the US is shifting to a Pacific focus following the introduction of new assets into the PLAN, hence why Australia is getting some US Marines coming to visit and some shiny new M1A1 Abrams to play with. Therefore, it would be very surprising if there wasn't at least one carrier at all times in the Yokohama region, after all there's not only the PRC but the DPRK to think about, plus operations towards Pakistan and up into the Gulf. With Egypt not sure what side it would be on in any conflict with Iran, sending a carrier group through the Suez would be a risky thing to do, so if I were America I'd look at bolstering somewhere like Diego Garcia up a bit as a good stopping off point and fuelling point for a CBG or two.

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