Obama's impeachable Offenses(link)

[misha1967]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I wonder what the backlash would be if the Patriot act was founded under Obama....

Hmmm?

Come to think of it: Wasn't that horrible violation of privacy rights, the Patriot Act, renewed three times by Obama?

And how come that drone strikes etc. are suddenly a-OK now that it's not an evil Republican doing them?

What's the word I'm looking for? Begins with an "H"... Hmm... Still working on it. Rhymes with "leprosy"...

Ah yes, I've got it: Hypocrisy!

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by misha1967

Come to think of it: Wasn't that horrible violation of privacy rights, the Patriot Act, renewed three times by Obama?

And how come that drone strikes etc. are suddenly a-OK now that it's not an evil Republican doing them?

What's the word I'm looking for? Begins with an "H"... Hmm... Still working on it. Rhymes with "leprosy"...

Ah yes, I've got it: Hypocrisy!

Your point? Maybe if a repub strong congress didn't fillibuster anything that would help the people in order to make the nigg, I uhh mean Barry Soetoro, Err Obama into a one term president, as admitted, we would be in a better place today.

But because partisan politics, and pledges to Grover Norquist are more important than the people, and what is best to the country, I suppose us normal folks have to take the abuse.

You ask as if I like my current president. He is simply better than the other options.


I'm still waiting for the "for the people, by the people part"

So you think me contradictory, because I like the black kenyan in office.

Better than the options sir.

Hypocrite? (does not rhyme with leprosy, kinda a stretch) No, I simply want our rights back, that we bent over and gave them out of fear after 9-11.

Crap like this, the extensions as you mentioned is what makes me believe we are similar to fascist Italy at this point.

But conservatives like the status quo, see my sig on my opinions of how well the status quo works.

Feed the corps, starves the proles. The true southern conservative way.

To think we once freed the slaves, now our government works to make all of slaves to it super PAC benfactors, thanks citizens United decision, a conservative supreme court ruling...

And you wonder why people are forced to democrats?

Give us a viable non partisan choice. No anti tax pledges to Grover Norquist. No backroom dealings with George Soros. For the freaking people, by the people.

or else....

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It is our right to change it, regardless of anti protesting laws they may pass. These rights were given to us by our founders, who saw us as free men, not corporate puppets.

So tell us why you hate Obama? I already blew any socialist arguments out the water, it is well established he is as fascist as any (R)...

Sooooo.

[AVGWarhawk]

You ask as if I like my current president. He is simply better than the other options.

No sir..he is about the same as the other options.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

No sir..he is about the same as the other options.

I have no counterpoint to offer, nor will I.

As leftist as I come across, I have voted republican more times in my adult life.

My defense of the spinless one is not partisanship, but a fear of the far right winger choices.

Mc Cain was so moderate, why did Palin have to mess it up for him? Why? Why? Why?

I was a McCain (warhero centrist republican) shoe in until Palin came around. She makes Joe Biden look like FDR.

[vienna]

And how come that drone strikes etc. are suddenly a-OK now that it's not an evil Republican doing them?

Possibly because the strikes done now seem to obliterate higher value targets (Al Queda leadership. Taliban leaders, etc) than when the previous administration launched their strikes; to paraphrase Voltaire, "Sucess is the best deodorant"...

[vienna]

Mc Cain was so moderate, why did Palin have to mess it up for him? Why? Why? Why?

I was a McCain (warhero centrist republican) shoe in until Palin came around. She makes Joe Biden look like FDR.

Amen to that!...

I have a rather cynical acquaintance who has this theory: the GOP leadership knew just how badly the Bush administration had screwed up the economy and they knew the worst was yet to come as a result of those failures after Bush left office; not wanting a GOP member in the White House when the Bandini hit the fan, they put a "poison pill" in the 2008 campaign in the form of Palin. Therefore, a Dem presides over the maelstrom of economic failure, the GOP gets a "free kick" in the form of having a Dem to kick around with minimal blame on themselves, and then the GOP can take back the White House just as they economy begins to come around, taking credit for the "rescue of" the economy...

I don't think this was a GOP master plan, because I don't think the GOP leadership is that smart (as evidenced by the "sterling" candidates they are fielding, so far), but, I must admit, if the idea didn't sound like something out of a political novel, it would rate some consideration...

[soopaman2]

I like the drone strikes.

It don't cost me a plane ticket to DC to attend family members funerals.

Ceremonies at Arlington are beautiful, but twice as sad for some reason...

Maybe because you know they died for rich people, and Cheneys little mercenary company.

But I am just a pinko commie pig right?

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by vienna

Amen to that!...

I have a rather cynical acquaintance who has this theory: the GOP leadership knew just how badly the Bush administration had screwed up the economy and they new the worst was yet to come as a result of those failures after Bush left office; not wanting a GOP member in the White House when the Bandini hit the fan, they put a "poison pill" in the 2008 campaign in the form of Palin. Therefore, a Dem presides over the maelstrom of economic failure, the GOP gets a "free kick" in the form of having a Dem to kick around with minimal blame on themselves, and then the GOP can take back the White House just as they economy begins to come around, taking credit for the "rescue of" the economy...

I don't think this was a GOP master plan, because I don't think the GOP leadership is that smart (as evidenced by the "sterling" candidates they are fielding, so far), but, I must admit, if the idea didn't sound like something out of a political novel, it would rate some consideration...

Pardon my back to back posts, but I type slow and caught this late.

But YES!

They were simply setting themselves up for 2012, and were willing to drive the country into the toilet to meet those goals.

Obama is going to win by default. Not because he is good, but because is is less harmful to the majority than the other options. Good job Repubs, no one else to blame but your extremism.

The man who says little, has more credibility than the man who says too much....Add that to the damn proverb thread, Soopaman2 said it, quote me..

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

How did you even graduate high school?

Typos happen

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Love him or hate him, Tribesman did bring up a good point when he pointed out that Bubs like to throw around the "I'm in law school" line like it gives his statements more weight, but then he turns around and talks about how the professors are pinko commies who run leftist socialist indoctrination courses. You can't have it both ways.

A well known fact is that academia is dominated by lefties.I have a few professors who are fair but most are far left and make it pretty well known.I mentioned( just a few times) that I am in law school because it is a pertinent fact when discussing certain things namely law etc , not because I am attempting to give my statements more "weight" as you put it.

[joegrundman]

Originally Posted by misha1967

Come to think of it: Wasn't that horrible violation of privacy rights, the Patriot Act, renewed three times by Obama?

And how come that drone strikes etc. are suddenly a-OK now that it's not an evil Republican doing them?

What's the word I'm looking for? Begins with an "H"... Hmm... Still working on it. Rhymes with "leprosy"...

Ah yes, I've got it: Hypocrisy!

leprosy rhymes with hypocrisy???

you guys talk funny in texas

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

No sir..he is about the same as the other options.

That's about right. American politics is a revolving door of failed ideology that is very good at kicking out anyone who offers any tangible change.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You must be very popular at school.

Left wingers hate me, esp when they get owned in class which is fine because I despise them more than anything, left wing ideology has done more damage to this country than any other, it is like a cancer.Trust me far right has as well, but not like the left.Fellow conservatives or moderates are the people I get along with and thus make up my friends.What I love is how certain people to try to pick apart things I write on here for spelling errors that are typos, nothing more. I usually author this stuff in a hurry so no spell check etc unlike a paper I turn in which is checked meticulously.Pick apart the bs details on a forum instead of the message, typical.

Certain members believe because they are older they are wiser etc, in some cases sure but not always, I have always disliked the arrogance people have just because they are older.Age does not equal intelligence and wisdom by default.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I like the drone strikes.

It don't cost me a plane ticket to DC to attend family members funerals.

Ceremonies at Arlington are beautiful, but twice as sad for some reason...

Maybe because you know they died for rich people, and Cheneys little mercenary company.

But I am just a pinko commie pig right?

soopa, I've noticed you always talk about rich people.Quit hating people just because they have money...

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by vienna

Amen to that!...

I have a rather cynical acquaintance who has this theory: the GOP leadership knew just how badly the Bush administration had screwed up the economy and they new the worst was yet to come as a result of those failures after Bush left office; not wanting a GOP member in the White House when the Bandini hit the fan, they put a "poison pill" in the 2008 campaign in the form of Palin. Therefore, a Dem presides over the maelstrom of economic failure, the GOP gets a "free kick" in the form of having a Dem to kick around with minimal blame on themselves, and then the GOP can take back the White House just as they economy begins to come around, taking credit for the "rescue of" the economy...

I don't think this was a GOP master plan, because I don't think the GOP leadership is that smart (as evidenced by the "sterling" candidates they are fielding, so far), but, I must admit, if the idea didn't sound like something out of a political novel, it would rate some consideration...

Plausible theory actually...