Is Obama Toast? Handicapping the 2012 Election - Page 3

1480 · 11-03-11, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Here's a question to you.

Would you like to be the next president for the US??

If you do nothing to the debt and other things-people gonna hate you

If you do something about it and I presume it's some tuff decision you have to make-people gonna hate you.

I would not.

Offcourse the president do not have to do all the job.

Markus

Valid points.

I for one would just be happy for a true leader.

Platapus · 11-03-11, 09:04 PM

Would anyone want to be President with the current state of Congress???

I think the current political attitudes will do more harm than anything else to our country. It seems like we have a bunch of children in congress, none of them seems to care about taking care of the country but seem only to be interested in party before country.

Bubblehead1980 · 11-03-11, 09:16 PM

Barring a major recovery of the economy(LOL right) or GOP running a flip flopping guy like Romney, Obama is definitely out.

Bubblehead1980 · 11-03-11, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Would anyone want to be President with the current state of Congress???

I think the current political attitudes will do more harm than anything else to our country. It seems like we have a bunch of children in congress, none of them seems to care about taking care of the country but seem only to be interested in party before country.

Congres is mostly ok, they just are not willing to give into obama's crappy plans. Look at where a cooperative congress lead by Reid and Pelosi got us.Blame lies with Obama and his failed policies as well as refusing to accept his left wing views have been proven incorrect.

mookiemookie · 11-03-11, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 1480

The strange part of all of this: as Romney has kept silent this past week, his poll numbers increased.

Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. Perry and Cain are destroying themselves, and Romney's just sitting back and letting it happen.

Torplexed · 11-03-11, 09:53 PM

The case for Obama.

1480 · 11-03-11, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. Perry and Cain are destroying themselves, and Romney's just sitting back and letting it happen.

Absolutely. Can you explain why Biden still has career without invoking the name of McConnell???? Your answer should read in form of a question, and should be within 1800 words or less. Thank you please drive up to the first window.

CCIP · 11-03-11, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1480

The strange part of all of this: as Romney has kept silent this past week, his poll numbers increased.

Well not necessarily strange. Right now there seems to be a battle going on over Cain's credibility due to these harassment allegations. It drives some people to him some people away from him. It may be encouraging some voters to go over to Romney instead. What's more interesting though is that, last I checked, Cain's poll numbers have actually increased in the past week as well.

1480 · 11-04-11, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Well not necessarily strange. Right now there seems to be a battle going on over Cain's credibility due to these harassment allegations. It drives some people to him some people away from him. It may be encouraging some voters to go over to Romney instead. What's more interesting though is that, last I checked, Cain's poll numbers have actually increased in the past week as well.

Just wondering who leaked the story....Cain #'s up may be an anomaly, though I hate to use that as an excuse for anything. Voting public see this as a charade? Not sure I give them that much credit. White guilt part II? My head hurts....

11-04-11, 09:17 AM

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Just wondering who leaked the story

Well the wingnut presenters said it was the worldwide liberal media conspiracy who want to keep the blackman down.
Cains camp have blamed so far the Republican party, his old employers, two of his current republican opponents, his old politcal campaigh staff, his business associates, the democrats, Rahm Emanuel, Obama.....I think they are blaming the grassy knoll next to then be followed by the bell boy.

The damage being done to Cain is not by the allegations themselves but by his ever changing excuses about them.
But look on the bright side for him, there must be another book in all this

1480 · 11-04-11, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Well the wingnut presenters said it was the worldwide liberal media conspiracy who want to keep the blackman down.
Cains camp have blamed so far the Republican party, his old employers, two of his current republican opponents, his old politcal campaigh staff, his business associates, the democrats, Rahm Emanuel, Obama.....I think they are blaming the grassy knoll next to then be followed by the bell boy.

The damage being done to Cain is not by the allegations themselves but by his ever changing excuses about them.
But look on the bright side for him, there must be another book in all this

I read some where that the lawsuits were filed two years after he left his post......its more difficult to defend yourself when you have no idea of whats going on----ONLY IF THAT PART OF THE STORY IS TRUE. Had he kept his mouth shut....hmmmmm

gammaphialpha · 12-21-11, 05:18 AM

If Obama loses my vote it will not be because of things that were out of his control. It will be because rather than speak forcefully for change, and make the promised changes that were within his power, he backed down even on executive decisions that were all his to make, in the mistaken belief that he would appeal to a broader electorate..

the_tyrant · 12-21-11, 08:29 AM

Off topic, but I just had a crazy day dream

I dreamed that Mussolini won against Obama on the "at least our trains run on time" platform

1480 · 12-21-11, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gammaphialpha

If Obama loses my vote it will not be because of things that were out of his control. It will be because rather than speak forcefully for change, and make the promised changes that were within his power, he backed down even on executive decisions that were all his to make, in the mistaken belief that he would appeal to a broader electorate..

Clinton understood that in order for him to get reelected he needed to get a moderate message across. Obama is not a leader but more of a prop that is being used by others to get their agenda across. It could be argued that some presidents were merely figureheads merely stumping for certain interests.

Hope and change was nothing more than double speak for "anyone who isn't a WASP."

Takeda Shingen · 12-21-11, 09:35 AM

I don't know, 1480, I think you'd have a hard time attempting to prove middle-aged white men as an oppressed minority. I'm reminded of a scene in a Simpsons episode (back in the 90's, when the episodes were actually good) where Lisa and Grandpa are lamenting the fact that no one cares what they think:

Lisa: It's awful being a kid. No one listens to you.

Grandpa: It's rotten being old. No one listens to you.

Homer (entering from the side): I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me -- no matter how dumb my suggestions are.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,995 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Would anyone want to be President with the current state of Congress??? I think the current political attitudes will do more harm than anything else to our country. It seems like we have a bunch of children in congress, none of them seems to care about taking care of the country but seem only to be interested in party before country. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Off topic, but I just had a crazy day dream I dreamed that Mussolini won against Obama on the "at least our trains run on time" platform __________________ My own open source project on Sourceforge OTP.net KGB grade encryption for the rest of us

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I don't know, 1480, I think you'd have a hard time attempting to prove middle-aged white men as an oppressed minority. I'm reminded of a scene in a Simpsons episode (back in the 90's, when the episodes were actually good) where Lisa and Grandpa are lamenting the fact that no one cares what they think: Lisa: It's awful being a kid. No one listens to you. Grandpa: It's rotten being old. No one listens to you. Homer (entering from the side): I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me -- no matter how dumb my suggestions are. Last edited by Takeda Shingen; 12-21-11 at 09:46 AM.

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Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 6,922 Downloads: 550 Uploads: 42	Barring a major recovery of the economy(LOL right) or GOP running a flip flopping guy like Romney, Obama is definitely out.

11-03-11, 09:53 PM	#36
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The case for Obama.

12-21-11, 05:18 AM	#42
gammaphialpha Watch Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If Obama loses my vote it will not be because of things that were out of his control. It will be because rather than speak forcefully for change, and make the promised changes that were within his power, he backed down even on executive decisions that were all his to make, in the mistaken belief that he would appeal to a broader electorate..