John Galliano found guilty of anti-Semitic Paris rants

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Great minds, Morts, great minds

The last time someone pulled that phrase on me, all I could think of to say was "Yeah, but so do idiots".

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

I blame the whales them breeding muther truckers are polluting our oceans!

You can teach them good manners,

[JSLTIGER]

You know, the only reason that I even looked at this thread was because I wondered how long it would take for someone to bring up some kind of "Jewish conspiracy" or say something completely inappropriate. Now I have my answer, and I find it sad. 4 posts. That's all it took.

As an American, I can understand finding it odd to be charged and convicted of a crime based merely on an insulting phrase in speech. The 1st Amendment is a fantastic guarantor of freedom when it comes to speech in this country. Many of the European countries (including France) have suspended freedom of speech when it comes to certain topics (such as direct insulting language towards particular subgroups of the demography of their countries) in order to ensure that past transgressions are not repeated.

Germany bans Nazi symbolism and references out of shame for their past actions and fear of a resurgence of views that mainstream enlightened society has condemned as evil. France and other nations across Europe have enacted similar laws (though generally not as stringent) as a result of several factors, including shame at their complicity with the Nazis (via the Vichy regime), along with a desire to end a history of anti-semitic sentiment (evidenced in France most notably through the Dreyfus Affair) in their nations. These laws have nothing to do with a "Jewish tyranny" (which is non-existant, by the way) of any sort, but rather the development of a national and social conscience.

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

You know, the only reason that I even looked at this thread was because I wondered how long it would take for someone to bring up some kind of "Jewish conspiracy" or say something completely inappropriate. Now I have my answer, and I find it sad. 4 posts. That's all it took.

As an American, I can understand finding it odd to be charged and convicted of a crime based merely on an insulting phrase in speech. The 1st Amendment is a fantastic guarantor of freedom when it comes to speech in this country. Many of the European countries (including France) have suspended freedom of speech when it comes to certain topics (such as direct insulting language towards particular subgroups of the demography of their countries) in order to ensure that past transgressions are not repeated.

Germany bans Nazi symbolism and references out of shame for their past actions and fear of a resurgence of views that mainstream enlightened society has condemned as evil. France and other nations across Europe have enacted similar laws (though generally not as stringent) as a result of several factors, including shame at their complicity with the Nazis (via the Vichy regime), along with a desire to end a history of anti-semitic sentiment (evidenced in France most notably through the Dreyfus Affair) in their nations. These laws have nothing to do with a "Jewish tyranny" (which is non-existant, by the way) of any sort, but rather the development of a national and social conscience.

Greetings JSLTIGER,

Nice attempt at covering up this travesty of Justus. However if the truth
about things that are if fact non-existent were considered in these phony
laws, that would finally end this "De-Nazification" curse and truly shameful
assault on the non-criminals of the EU.
As for Germany: Germany has been ruled by a puppet government, put in
place after the fall of Berlin and will remain a vassal state of the US
Government until 2099. All this shame and false guilt is manufactured to
justify the subjection of the German people and robbing her of the wealth
of her working class. I would like you to know full well that I will no longer
be lied to and remain cowed by this monstrous conspiracy. Hidding the
truth and supporting the myth of Jewish innocents is in it's self an evil act.
But when the light of day has finally broken through (as it has) it is
viciously opposed with vile hatred. As a American, Christian I can assure
you this speaks volumes.

[Dowly]

@ZeeWolf: Is there any foundation you base these views on? Articles, videos, anything?
Just curious.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Vendor

You can teach them good manners,

Nah impossible their fins always touch the table when eating. I have be told they're good at snooker though...

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Nah impossible their fins always touch the table when eating. I have be told they're good at snooker though...

Nice attempt at covering up this travesty of Justus.

As a American, Christian I can assure
you this speaks volumes.

Given the pattern of the lunacy of your claims it does raise the question, are you American or is that another figmentation of your twisted mind?

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Given the pattern of the lunacy of your claims it does raise the question, are you American or is that another figmentation of your twisted mind?

Come on Tribesman be honest, it's Christ the King of the Jews you and your ilk
really dispise. And could you imagine if you didn't have Hitler to vent your
vial puss on. You couldn't possibly hid your hatred for Christ and all things
Christian. When all this smoke screen of vicious and vial attacks clears and
the tactics of relentless defaming, hateful criticism loses it's power are you
so blind you can't see what's coming?

[JSLTIGER]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Greetings JSLTIGER,

Nice attempt at covering up this travesty of Justus. However if the truth
about things that are if fact non-existent were considered in these phony
laws, that would finally end this "De-Nazification" curse and truly shameful
assault on the non-criminals of the EU.
As for Germany: Germany has been ruled by a puppet government, put in
place after the fall of Berlin and will remain a vassal state of the US
Government until 2099. All this shame and false guilt is manufactured to
justify the subjection of the German people and robbing her of the wealth
of her working class. I would like you to know full well that I will no longer
be lied to and remain cowed by this monstrous conspiracy. Hidding the
truth and supporting the myth of Jewish innocents is in it's self an evil act.
But when the light of day has finally broken through (as it has) it is
viciously opposed with vile hatred. As a American, Christian I can assure
you this speaks volumes.

Wow...just wow. I'm not entirely sure what "travesty of Justus [sic]" (the word, by the way, is "justice") you're referring to. Heck, I can't even figure out what that first sentence of yours is trying to say. Here's what I do know, however. His country, France, declared a law deemed acceptable according to his society. He broke said law. He had full due process of law under the French system and he was convicted of breaking the law under their system of justice. While you may consider the ruling to be a travesty IN YOUR OPINION, your opinion has no say over what laws the French government and people choose to enact and enforce.

I am hardly attempting to cover up anything. I applaud the French judicial system for levying justice in this case. There was a law, he broke it, he was tried, he was sentenced. His sentence, in all honesty, is not overly harsh, considering that much of it was suspended, but fair nonetheless given the severity of his crime. It's not as if he killed anyone, after all. There's a saying that, as a fellow American, you may be familiar with. "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." Now, you may not agree with the law that he was convicted of breaking, but it is not your place to impose your beliefs on another country. Our society has our collective beliefs, and theirs has theirs.

The German government, freely elected by its people, mind you, presides over one of the largest and wealthiest economies in the Eurozone. According to the IMF, Germany has a $3.3T economy today. The standard of living in Germany today is comparable to that in the U.S. with a per capita income of over $40K. How is that in any way, shape or form "robbing her of the wealth of her working class?"

You offer no proof whatsoever to back up your claims. Where is there any indication that Germany is acting as a "vassal state" of the U.S., and furthermore, how do you know it is going to be in such a state until 2099? Is it merely because the German government did not change in 1999 so you pushed the date back 100 years so your inane belief structure would not be challenged? If this is not the case and you have actual credible proof of your claims, please, I would love to see it. However, you and I both know that that's not going to happen, because there is no proof.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Come on Tribesman be honest, it's Christ the King of the Jews you and your ilk
really dispise. And could you imagine if you didn't have Hitler to vent your
vial puss on. You couldn't possibly hid your hatred for Christ and all things
Christian. When all this smoke screen of vicious and vial attacks clears and
the tactics of relentless defaming, hateful criticism loses it's power are you
so blind you can't see what's coming?

Vial attacks? I think you mean vile. Unless Tribesman's attacks come in a volley of little glass bottles.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Vial attacks? I think you mean vile. Unless Tribesman's attacks come in a volley of little glass bottles.

Well, Tribesman does tend to dispense his attacks in sharp little doses

Also when did he say anything about Christ? You on the other hand said lots of nonsense about Jews and Nazis and leave enough basis to make conclusions as to who you hate and indeed which particular stance your views come from. It's funny how you accuse people of being hateful Christ-haters without them ever saying anything directly, and then deny being a follower of a hateful ideology yourself when every post you've made lately states those things in rather concrete specifics.

[Sailor Steve]

"Justus", "Vial", "Thrown" (in another thread)...

You know, Zeewolf, a little education wouldn't hurt. Or should I say "educashun"?

[ZeeWolf]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

"Justus", "Vial", "Thrown" (in another thread)...

You know, Zeewolf, a little education wouldn't hurt. Or should I say "educashun"?

Thanks SS,
Nice two see your keeping a close watch on me, a biased one of course.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by ZeeWolf

Thanks SS,
Nice two see your keeping a close watch on me, a biased one of course.