Strange issue..

[frau kaleun]

I would say, start a whole new career if you didn't already, with start at sea unchecked. From the same base at around the same time period.

If you don't start at sea in the new career, then we know it's not the coordinates in the game files, or something Commander is doing across the board. It's just an issue with the one career you were already playing.

Which is where checking the coordinates for DeparturePoint Long & Lat in that particular Career's folder would come in.

Granted, I don't know exactly how those files are read by Commander or the game or what exactly to edit to fix the problem for that particular career, but at least we'd have narrowed it down some and know it's not an issue with the game files or Commander overall.

If we don't have any luck figuring it out here, it might not be a bad idea to ask about it in the stickied Commander thread in the Mods forum, might get additional input that way.

[ryanglavin]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

I would say, start a whole new career if you didn't already, with start at sea unchecked. From the same base at around the same time period.

If you don't start at sea in the new career, then we know it's not the coordinates in the game files, or something Commander is doing across the board. It's just an issue with the one career you were already playing.

Which is where checking the coordinates for DeparturePoint Long & Lat in that particular Career's folder would come in.

Granted, I don't know exactly how those files are read by Commander or the game or what exactly to edit to fix the problem for that particular career, but at least we'd have narrowed it down some and know it's not an issue with the game files or Commander overall.

If we don't have any luck figuring it out here, it might not be a bad idea to ask about it in the stickied Commander thread in the Mods forum, might get additional input that way.

Already tried that, to no avail. Going for Bakkels idea. We might have to wait for Jscones.

EDIT: WAIT! I found a file in the Sh3 commander configuration settings, and it says "Startatsea=0". Should I change that to a different value?

[Bakkels]

That's it. So the problem seems to be that even though you checked the 'start at sea' option, sh3commander doesn't actually do it. Strange...
But I double-checked and it should say 'startatsea=1' so there you have it.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Bakkels

That's it. So the problem seems to be that even though you checked the 'start at sea' option, sh3commander doesn't actually do it. Strange...
But I double-checked and it should say 'startatsea=1' so there you have it.

Yeah, I was starting to wonder if it wasn't a rollback issue at all, especially since the game files didn't seem to have "at sea" coordinates for the bases. If it's something in Commander's files instead, then I don't know that rolling back or not has any effect on those.

It's still weird that it would get stuck like that and not update when you changed it in the Options screen. I've gone from one to the other and back again in the same career without any issues. Although I've only ever checked or unchecked that box in between patrols, but I don't know if that makes any difference.

At any rate - hope that sorts it out.

Edit: Actually, looking at SH3Cmdr.ini in two of my Commander installations, it looks like this:

StartAtSea=0 means the option is unchecked, and you start in the subpens

and

StartAtSea=1 means the option is checked, and you start at sea.

So if it says StartAtSea=0 in that file, you should be starting in the subpens.

[Bakkels]

My bad, I didn't remember correctly, you wanted to start in the subpen. Then 'startatsea=0' should be right. Well now I'm at a complete loss. Can't think of anything else that'll help you...

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Bakkels

My bad, I didn't remember correctly, you wanted to start in the subpen. Then 'startatsea=0' should be right. Well now I'm at a complete loss. Can't think of anything else that'll help you...

I know, I got all excited and then realized I had two different Commanders with the option on in one and off in the other so I checked the file in both just out of curiosity.

And I really thought that if the problem didn't repeat on a new career, it would something in one set of career files we could look at but that doesn't seem to be the source either.

I'm stumped too, I would suggest posting a question about it in the Commander thread. JScones might pop in and have a really obvious answer that we're just not seeing.

[Gargamel]

Originally Posted by Bakkels

That's it. So the problem seems to be that even though you checked the 'start at sea' option, sh3commander doesn't actually do it. Strange...
But I double-checked and it should say 'startatsea=1' so there you have it.

I know this was mentioned before, but I'm unclear as to your answer...

Do you have auto-rollback enabled?

If so... disable it.

If i have it enabled on mine, the delay in launching SH3 causes SHC to undo all the nice changes it just made to the game, so it's like I don't even have SHC.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

I know this was mentioned before, but I'm unclear as to your answer...

Do you have auto-rollback enabled?

If so... disable it.

If i have it enabled on mine, the delay in launching SH3 causes SHC to undo all the nice changes it just made to the game, so it's like I don't even have SHC.

He mentioned above that he does rollbacks manually, but if the issue you have is Steam-related, I think he said upthread somewhere that he doesn't have the Steam version.

[Jimbuna]

If I may......

For example:

SilentHunterIII\data\Cfg

Open the Flotilla Cfg in notepad check lat and long figures

Now go to SilentHunterIII\data\Campaigns\Campaign and open Campaign_LND

Search for Kiel - Unit 267 (as an example)

THE NUMBERS ON BOTH FLOTILLA AND LND HAVE TO MATCH/BE IDENTICAL

The simplest and by far the quickest way is to use Mission Editor (open LND) and place the naval basewhere you want to leave from remembering to set heading....then copy those coordinates over to Flotilla Cfg (that is how I created the internal sub pen starting points for GWX).

[ryanglavin]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

If I may......

For example:

SilentHunterIII\data\Cfg

Open the Flotilla Cfg in notepad check lat and long figures

Now go to SilentHunterIII\data\Campaigns\Campaign and open Campaign_LND

Search for Kiel - Unit 267 (as an example)

THE NUMBERS ON BOTH FLOTILLA AND LND HAVE TO MATCH/BE IDENTICAL

The simplest and by far the quickest way is to use Mission Editor (open LND) and place the naval basewhere you want to leave from remembering to set heading....then copy those coordinates over to Flotilla Cfg (that is how I created the internal sub pen starting points for GWX).

I can't open the LND file.. what program do I need?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by ryanglavin

I can't open the LND file.. what program do I need?

Notepad...it opens the same way the Flotilla Cfg does.

[ryanglavin]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Notepad...it opens the same way the Flotilla Cfg does.

Wheres notepad located in Windows 7? (The file, I can't find it for some reason)

[Jimbuna]

Right click on the file then select open with and a list of programme options should appear.

[ryanglavin]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Right click on the file then select open with and a list of programme options should appear.

I did what you said, and it still starts me out at sea. Changed the files and everything.

[Jimbuna]

Then you have conflicting lines of information in at least one of your config files.

Your choices are:

1) Uninstall and reinstall

2) Disable ALL mods and PM me your email addy and I'll send you fresh Cfg's (Basic, Flotilla, Scr, LND and RND) for GWX3.0

I think your best bet would be a fresh install though.