About the reptilian threads

[Lord Justice]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

I just like following a good debate. Even when I don't participate myself, I often find myself learning something from both sides of any given debate. It's nice.

Are you French sir? or just a wise owl! @tak, if you should advance my way enroute to brig, I will throw you a ball and glove, if to be had.

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Hi all,

No, I have not gone crazy, or at least crazier than I already am. Neal and Neon, feel free to delete them, brig me, yell at me or remove my 'best of' badge or my moderator status if you feel it necessary; I won't get angry and storm off, leaving SubSim forever in a huff, nor will I say anything nasty about either of you. Any of those consequences would be well-deserved, and I did what I did knowing well that they would be the likely result. I know that this was topic spamming, and that is very wrong. My little act of civil disobedience was simply to illustrate the fallacy of the claim that 'different aspects' of the same topic are not the same topic. It is still topic spam, and if 4 threads were that annoying, please imagine the frustration that many, myself included, feel over 187 threads about the same issue. If it allows for members to stop and think before doing this sort of thing, then it would make GT a much nicer place to be, and would be well worth any consequences that I am likely about to suffer.

I did not know that Obama was an issue. So far I thought the issues here where his different policies, politics and dreams he had for the country.

And comparing 4 threads posted within a short time with ~187 threads over.. what? 2 years or almost 3 years is rather mood, imho. Thats less than a new thread a day on average and nobody puts a gun to anyones head to post in them to keep these on the first page.

You can always tell Vendor to stop playing a news caster (just kidding), that will reduce the number of Obama threads on the first page drasticaly.

I understand where you are coming from, and what you intend to show. However, when it comes to politics humans rarely (no matter which politcial sprectrum they are part of) are rational (no offense to anyone), and it is not going to change.

Just speaking for myself here: Yes, I do get annoyed sometimes too about all the Obama threads, all the Bush threads, all threads about how much the new patch sucks, how ****ty this (no particular) mod is, or how crappy the SH V / Ubi DRM is, but I decide if I want to read or even post in it. If I don't like it, I'll just ignore the threads.. No sweat, no lost sleep.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by 4Para

Are you French sir? or just a wise owl!

No, I'm a Hottentot! Sorry, couldn't resist. You just reminded me where my nick comes from. We were once in France with bunch of friends (all Finns), staying in a certain place where many people from different countries were staying at and usually also accommodated in same rooms. Then this French guy suddenly barged into our room when I was all alone and asked if anyone there was French. I replied apologizing that I'm unfortunately a Hottentot and all my friends are Bushmen. Poor guy left with a very confused look on his face and later I learned that he only wanted to know what time it was.

Come to think of it, I haven't ever been called "French", "Sir" or "Wise". Even less all in the same post. I'm taking it as a compliment and hope that tomorrow I won't wake up as a Reptilian drone.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Hi all,

No, I have not gone crazy, or at least crazier than I already am. Neal and Neon, feel free to delete them, brig me, yell at me or remove my 'best of' badge or my moderator status if you feel it necessary; I won't get angry and storm off, leaving SubSim forever in a huff, nor will I say anything nasty about either of you. Any of those consequences would be well-deserved, and I did what I did knowing well that they would be the likely result. I know that this was topic spamming, and that is very wrong. My little act of civil disobedience was simply to illustrate the fallacy of the claim that 'different aspects' of the same topic are not the same topic. It is still topic spam, and if 4 threads were that annoying, please imagine the frustration that many, myself included, feel over 187 threads about the same issue. If it allows for members to stop and think before doing this sort of thing, then it would make GT a much nicer place to be, and would be well worth any consequences that I am likely about to suffer.

I say we found our new FFL football commish.... for the next 10 years.

[Lord Justice]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

Come to think of it, I haven't ever been called "French", "Sir" or "Wise". Even less all in the same post. I'm taking it as a compliment

Then a toast my good man! To duty, and manners. Good day.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

No, I'm a Hottentot! Sorry, couldn't resist. You just reminded me where my nick comes from. We were once in France with bunch of friends (all Finns), staying in a certain place where many people from different countries were staying at and usually also accommodated in same rooms. Then this French guy suddenly barged into our room when I was all alone and asked if anyone there was French. I replied apologizing that I'm unfortunately a Hottentot and all my friends are Bushmen. Poor guy left with a very confused look on his face and later I learned that he only wanted to know what time it was.

Come to think of it, I haven't ever been called "French", "Sir" or "Wise". Even less all in the same post. I'm taking it as a compliment and hope that tomorrow I won't wake up as a Reptilian drone.

This is exactly what I'm talking about! If you try a superthread for something like politics, you'll have people going off on tangents left and right just like this, and it'll be more foncusing than just having a thread for each line of thinking

[Hottentot]

I'm sure the musical reference on page 2 was relevant, though.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Oberon

We've tried creating an Obama superthread but it rarely works out because people will insist on posting a new thread anyway, or someone like yubba will come along and derail a thread that has nothing to do with Obama.

The only possible way to make it work would be to instantly lock any new thread and brig the creator for some time. Sooner or later it might sink in. Or not.

You mean we're not? I thought that's how it was done in the USSA these days under Josef Obama?

[gimpy117]

hey I'm with you takeda.

funny articles are much better than "obama this" "obama that"

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

I'm sure the musical reference on page 2 was relevant, though.

Oh yes very

[Gargamel]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Political subforum hardly would work - it is only a question of time until it gets "spammed" with one and the same issue, and then they dfemand inside that forum another special forum for that issue.

GT is the one rumble pit where all and everything gets thrown into that does not match the other forums. Like it and enjoy it, don'T like it and stay out. That simple!

My .02

Having been a mod on another sizable forum before, the GT type forums are there for a reason. We have our SH3, SH4, SH5, etc threads, and people get branded as trolls for even considering crossposting there.

The GT forum is like herding cat's. You have to allow just about anything that isn't covered elsewhere on the site, but you also have to keep it reasonable. You just have to direct the flow, and hope it stays in the right direction.

So what if there's a bazillion Obama threads? He (the POTUS, maybe not him in particular) is historically (recent) regarded as the most powerful man in teh world. I would like to think he would get some attention. And each thread usually has a different topic about him or his actions. Yes they'll get ugly and the same argument over and over, but each started with a unique discussion.

That's what GT is for. To allow for the free flow of discussion of various topics. If there starts to get obscene duplication of topics, then the mods need to step in, add redirects, merges, locks, etc. I've usually found this to be self policing here, as most duplicate threads get redirected by the members, and one dies off. But if the mods do want to step up, then a simple redirect link and a lock would suffice.

[Onkel Neal]

Ha! I guessed correctly.

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Ha! I guessed correctly.

I had guessed that you had guessed, What are we guessing again?

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Hi all,

No, I have not gone crazy, or at least crazier than I already am. Neal and Neon, feel free to delete them, brig me, yell at me or remove my 'best of' badge or my moderator status if you feel it necessary; I won't get angry and storm off, leaving SubSim forever in a huff, nor will I say anything nasty about either of you. Any of those consequences would be well-deserved, and I did what I did knowing well that they would be the likely result. I know that this was topic spamming, and that is very wrong. My little act of civil disobedience was simply to illustrate the fallacy of the claim that 'different aspects' of the same topic are not the same topic. It is still topic spam, and if 4 threads were that annoying, please imagine the frustration that many, myself included, feel over 187 threads about the same issue. If it allows for members to stop and think before doing this sort of thing, then it would make GT a much nicer place to be, and would be well worth any consequences that I am likely about to suffer.

Takeda, I like your sense of humor but you are incorrect in wishing for a "master obama" thread and starting a "reptile" thread is a terrible, but humorous way to try and prove your point.Although posting various reptile threads over the course of a day as opposed to 2-3 years worth of threads that concern issues related to obama somehow proves your point, well that is just crap honestly.

Most threads are in fact more about the issues but since obama is president and usually the one pushing certain issues, the discussion seems to be about him, more than the issue.Once again, thread concerning healthcare should not be merged with a foreign policy thread simply because obama is president and will prob be discussed in the thread, that makes no sense.The particular thread annoys you? Ignore it, just like you turn the channel and do not watch a tv show that offends or annoys you.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The only possible way to make it work would be to instantly lock any new thread and brig the creator for some time. Sooner or later it might sink in. Or not.

Yea Steve, lets just shut down members freedom to post subjects they wish on the board simply because a few A...well not so jolly individuals get their panties in a bunch when someone posts a thread cocerning issues related to the president.I would be for going after people if TRUE topic spamming were going on, but there has been not true topic spamming as claimed by those who wish to stifle discussion because this dislike it.The issue is simply, some people are annoyed so they complain, they have a right to, however they don't have a right to shut other members down for posting things they don't like.People post crap that I dislike all the time, I ignore it, pretty simple.