Republicans Take Over House Ready to Spar With Obama

Gerald · 01-05-11, 07:48 AM

As Rep. John Boehner is elected as Speaker, the Republicans of the 112th Congress will take over the House and square off with Obama on big government, spending and health care.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/20...112th-congress

Note: January 05, 2011

gimpy117 · 01-05-11, 01:50 PM

yay Republicans!

oh wait...this means were really screwed now.

Ducimus · 01-05-11, 02:03 PM

s.s.d.d.

AVGWarhawk · 01-05-11, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

s.s.d.d.

I would hope not. 89 new freshmen with I hope new ideas. They asked to have the line to tow. Let's see how they tow it.

gimpy117 · 01-05-11, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I would hope not. 89 new freshmen with I hope new ideas. They asked to have the line to tow. Let's see how they tow it.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...rom-the-pledge

I agree with Ducimis. SSDD

Oberon · 01-05-11, 03:13 PM

This thread goes to hell in five...four...three...

Takeda Shingen · 01-05-11, 03:15 PM

Overall, I thought that Boehner made a good speech; calm, subdued, free of grand standing and with the intent of returning power to the people. For him, the challenge comes after the speech. The gauntlet of 'healthcare reform repeal or failure' has been thrown down. Team R does not have the votes to do it, which means that they will likely have to deal with moderate Democtratic Party members if they are going to have any chance at accomplishing this. Dealing means compromise, which is completely at odds with the so-called Tea Party members and the philosophy of their constituents. So, as far as I can see, Boehner's problem, as the de-facto leader of the Republican Party, will be trying to walk the tight rope of political reality while trying to keep his fragile alliance together. This will be a major challenge, as Team R is not the monolithic block it once was. The interests of the neo-conservative leadership are now at odds with the so-called Tea Party; the movement that is largely responsible for the Republican resurgence.

Should make for good theatre, if nothing else.

EDIT: I resent that, Oberon.

gimpy117 · 01-05-11, 07:36 PM

I personally am concerned with the whole new Tea Party Movement and heres why:

It started out as a legitimate Grass roots movement for sure, Mostly over spending etc. I respected that. Sure there was some underlying racism in the party...but mostly is was over spending. Contrary to popular belif in the GOP us dems are not spend crazy, I would welcome better more effective spending, something the original Tea Party advocated. The problem I see, is that the tea party is not the original tea party. Somewhere along the road the Noecons and GOP decided it was a good way to "re-brand" the republican party; a way of making it seem like its a new movement, rather than just having to state the fact that it's the same old party. Its a brilliant plan that worked, working so well that nobody batted an eye when the new spokesperson of the tea party movement was Palin, somebody who was and probably still is affiliated with the old breed who helped ruin this country. I have a feeling all these new "tea party" senators will act just the same as the old GOP members, people who voted for out of control spending for the war via privatization of the war effort itself, Or let the banks run wild causing the collapse. Although some may say the republican party didn't really cause the collapse, it happened under their watch and I think giving back the house to people that presided over all this mess, or at least people very similar is a dangerous game to play indeed.

What they say is true: american needs new innovative policies to solve our problems, But are these people really new an innovative? or are they just the same wolves dressed in sheep's clothing? Sadly for America and her allies, I think thats just what they are, the same old party.

Platapus · 01-05-11, 07:36 PM

All these freshmen/women will soon learn a harsh political lesson.

It is far easier being the minority party where you can just complain. When you are the majority party you have to fix the problem. And that ain't so easy.

I wish them luck. I will unrealistically maintain the fantasy that some of the congress critters will place our nation before their party.

I fully expect to be disappointed..... again.

01-05-11, 07:48 AM	#1
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01-05-11, 07:36 PM	#8
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	I personally am concerned with the whole new Tea Party Movement and heres why: It started out as a legitimate Grass roots movement for sure, Mostly over spending etc. I respected that. Sure there was some underlying racism in the party...but mostly is was over spending. Contrary to popular belif in the GOP us dems are not spend crazy, I would welcome better more effective spending, something the original Tea Party advocated. The problem I see, is that the tea party is not the original tea party. Somewhere along the road the Noecons and GOP decided it was a good way to "re-brand" the republican party; a way of making it seem like its a new movement, rather than just having to state the fact that it's the same old party. Its a brilliant plan that worked, working so well that nobody batted an eye when the new spokesperson of the tea party movement was Palin, somebody who was and probably still is affiliated with the old breed who helped ruin this country. I have a feeling all these new "tea party" senators will act just the same as the old GOP members, people who voted for out of control spending for the war via privatization of the war effort itself, Or let the banks run wild causing the collapse. Although some may say the republican party didn't really cause the collapse, it happened under their watch and I think giving back the house to people that presided over all this mess, or at least people very similar is a dangerous game to play indeed. What they say is true: american needs new innovative policies to solve our problems, But are these people really new an innovative? or are they just the same wolves dressed in sheep's clothing? Sadly for America and her allies, I think thats just what they are, the same old party. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,399 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	All these freshmen/women will soon learn a harsh political lesson. It is far easier being the minority party where you can just complain. When you are the majority party you have to fix the problem. And that ain't so easy. I wish them luck. I will unrealistically maintain the fantasy that some of the congress critters will place our nation before their party. I fully expect to be disappointed..... again. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	This thread goes to hell in five...four...three...

01-05-11, 03:15 PM	#7
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Overall, I thought that Boehner made a good speech; calm, subdued, free of grand standing and with the intent of returning power to the people. For him, the challenge comes after the speech. The gauntlet of 'healthcare reform repeal or failure' has been thrown down. Team R does not have the votes to do it, which means that they will likely have to deal with moderate Democtratic Party members if they are going to have any chance at accomplishing this. Dealing means compromise, which is completely at odds with the so-called Tea Party members and the philosophy of their constituents. So, as far as I can see, Boehner's problem, as the de-facto leader of the Republican Party, will be trying to walk the tight rope of political reality while trying to keep his fragile alliance together. This will be a major challenge, as Team R is not the monolithic block it once was. The interests of the neo-conservative leadership are now at odds with the so-called Tea Party; the movement that is largely responsible for the Republican resurgence. Should make for good theatre, if nothing else. EDIT: I resent that, Oberon.