The quest for the worst combat aircraft in history... - Page 3

frau kaleun · 09-26-10, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_XFY

Hey, I had one of their blowdryers once. Looked a lot like that.

No wait mine was a Conair.

Is there a weird angle on this pic, or does that thing have one too many of... something?

JokerOfFate · 09-26-10, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_XFY

This is what happens when the Air force and the Navy sit down together.

Raptor1 · 09-26-10, 04:45 AM

When it comes to experimental or otherwise prototype aircraft, not much can beat the Kalinin K-7...

...or the Tarrant Tabor...

Schroeder · 09-26-10, 05:23 AM

Fokker Fodder
Nuff said!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_A..._Factory_B.E.2

Jimbuna · 09-26-10, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Ok new criteria: the aircraft must suck so bad that no corrective measures can fix it.

The Kamikaze

TLAM Strike · 09-26-10, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

The Kamikaze

What? The Kamikaze was one of the most successful weapons ever. On one day they hit seven carriers as well as 40 other ships (five sunk, 23 heavily damaged, and 12 moderately damaged (according to wikipedia). They sank around 40 ships total incl. three aircraft carriers.

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Originally Posted by JokerOfFate

This is what happens when the Air force and the Navy sit down together.

Yea its much better when the Navy just slaps the Air Force in the face and says: "This is what you are going to fly, now deal with it!"

NeonSamurai · 09-26-10, 09:24 AM

How bout this brilliant idea?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR_Fireball

Jimbuna · 09-26-10, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

What? The Kamikaze was one of the most successful weapons ever. On one day they hit seven carriers as well as 40 other ships (five sunk, 23 heavily damaged, and 12 moderately damaged (according to wikipedia). They sank around 40 ships total incl. three aircraft carriers.

I meant in the context of you stating "so bad that no corrective measures can fix it".

I don't believe any were ever 'fixed'

TLAM Strike · 09-26-10, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

How bout this brilliant idea?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR_Fireball

There have been quite a few "composite" ( # Turning and # Burning) aircraft over the years. Like the AJ Savage, Avro Shackleton and B-36 Peacemaker. The Fireball wasn't necessarily a bad aircraft it was more a stopgap solution outpaced by by technology. Don't forget that when the Fireball was built it was assumed their would be a massive apocalyptic battle for Japan and any edge our pilots could have would save lives.

TLAM Strike · 09-26-10, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I meant in the context of you stating "so bad that no corrective measures can fix it".

I don't believe any were ever 'fixed'

Well they did fix them... they welded cockpit shut some times.

tater · 09-26-10, 09:49 AM

Three jeep carriers.

For combat aircraft, I think I'd require that they actually saw combat, then look at effectiveness. The G4M was pretty ineffective, and virtually all of them were shot down

And they were pretty "fairly" attacked, unlike some of the planes slaughtered during the initial japanese expansion, or even the german invasion of the CCCP. In both cases the attacking AFs had such overwhelming numbers at the sharp end that aircraft quality is a non-starter, any planes would have been wiped out at the right odds.

Oberon · 09-26-10, 09:58 AM

What can I nominate that hasn't already been said?

I always bring up the Flying Tent Peg, but it only really sucks if you treat it like a normal plane, and then you suck all the way down to the ground.

You had to get up, whack something and then go down, if you got into a turning dogfight, well then you're going to struggle.

The Defiant sucked because it was a World War One fighter in World War Two, however it excelled at the night role, so it's not that much of a sucker really...although those who used it after the 109s had twigged on the difference between it and a Hurricane would probably differ in opinion.

TLAM Strike · 09-26-10, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

What can I nominate that hasn't already been said?

I always bring up the Flying Tent Peg, but it only really sucks if you treat it like a normal plane, and then you suck all the way down to the ground.

You had to get up, whack something and then go down, if you got into a turning dogfight, well then you're going to struggle.

Hardly! 2,575 built for 15 countries hardly seems like a failure.

I nominate the Convair R3Y Tradewind

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_R3Y_Tradewind

Nice looking, but horribly unreliable.

Gerald · 09-26-10, 10:19 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.42

JSLTIGER · 09-26-10, 10:22 AM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned it thus far, so I will...I nominate the Brewster F2A Buffalo, another plane derided by its pilots as a flying coffin. The sad thing is that I grew up about a mile away from where they built these things back in WWII in Warminster, PA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_F2A_Buffalo

I'm sorry, but this one just has to take the cake...it's one fugly airplane.

09-26-10, 04:45 AM	#33
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09-26-10, 05:23 AM	#34
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Fokker Fodder Nuff said! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_A..._Factory_B.E.2 __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Fiat CR.42 Falco http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_CR.42 __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

09-26-10, 10:22 AM	#45
JSLTIGER The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Parkland, FL, USA Posts: 1,437 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I'm surprised no one has mentioned it thus far, so I will...I nominate the Brewster F2A Buffalo, another plane derided by its pilots as a flying coffin. The sad thing is that I grew up about a mile away from where they built these things back in WWII in Warminster, PA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_F2A_Buffalo I'm sorry, but this one just has to take the cake...it's one fugly airplane. __________________ Thor: Intel Core i7 4770K\|ASUS Z87Pro\|32GB DDR3 RAM\|11GB EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Black\|256GB Crucial M4 SSD+2TB WD HDD\|4X LG BD-RE\|32" Acer Predator Z321QU 165Hz G-Sync (2540x1440)\|Logitech Z-323 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Pro Explorer (MSI GL63 8RE-629 Laptop): Intel Core i7 8750H\|16GB DDR4 RAM\|6GB GeForce GTX 1060\|128GB SSD+1TB HDD\|15.6" Widescreen (1920x1080)\|Logitech R-20 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Home

09-26-10, 09:49 AM	#41
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Three jeep carriers. For combat aircraft, I think I'd require that they actually saw combat, then look at effectiveness. The G4M was pretty ineffective, and virtually all of them were shot down And they were pretty "fairly" attacked, unlike some of the planes slaughtered during the initial japanese expansion, or even the german invasion of the CCCP. In both cases the attacking AFs had such overwhelming numbers at the sharp end that aircraft quality is a non-starter, any planes would have been wiped out at the right odds.

09-26-10, 09:58 AM	#42
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	What can I nominate that hasn't already been said? I always bring up the Flying Tent Peg, but it only really sucks if you treat it like a normal plane, and then you suck all the way down to the ground. You had to get up, whack something and then go down, if you got into a turning dogfight, well then you're going to struggle. The Defiant sucked because it was a World War One fighter in World War Two, however it excelled at the night role, so it's not that much of a sucker really...although those who used it after the 109s had twigged on the difference between it and a Hurricane would probably differ in opinion.