Favorite President ?

[Bubblehead1980]

Okay, just want everyone to share their favorite US President and possible 3-4 reasons why if you can.Do not want an argument etc, just share.I am curious because we have quite the mix of political views here.

[Diopos]

President: Unborn.
Reason: Obvious.


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[Castout]

JFK.

1. He believed in what he was saying when you look at him giving speech
2. He has got some sort of idealism which was validated with him being killed by non foreign agent. If it had been foreign agent WWIII would've already erupted or at the very least, a counter assassination of the Soviet highest leader would have happened. It's that obvious.
3. His speech about an evil secret society, coming from a US president in office no less

The greatest modern day American however in my opinion would be Martin Luther King Jr.

[CCIP]

Thomas Jefferson for me - reasons being primarily his views of individual rights, education, justice and the economy/socioeconomics (in particular as regard corporations). I agree with what he espoused in regard to these things, almost entirely. He did a good job of preserving these and advancing them somewhat. Not perfect (particularly as regards to his controversial dealings with slavery and Indian affairs), but a lot of the values he espoused and helped institute always stood, to me, as the fundamental things that made the rest of the world always look up to America. Though of course I say that as a non-American.

[Takeda Shingen]

Can't say that I have a favorite. I regard presidents as being either effective or ineffective in their work. I'll list three presidents that I feel are on each end of that.

Effective:

Abraham Lincoln: Reasons obvious. Probably the closest I have to 'favorite'.

Andrew Jackson: I detest his treatement of the Native American populace, but he did pave the way for the expansion of the United States. He also layed the ground work for the modern system of the federal government.

Franklin Roosevelt: SEC, FDIC, Social Security, minimum wage. Love him or not, those are now fixtures American governance.

Ineffective:

Andrew Johnson: Really botched reconstruction, didn't he?

William Henry Harrison: Sorry, but you can't be effective when you are in office for only 30 days.

Warren Harding: Too much poker, not enough watching the treasury department.

JFK.
because he had an unusual name thats very easy to spell

[Ducimus]

Andrew Jackson.

I can't say i like how he treated Native American's, but overall he was the common mans president. A tough, down to earth, grizzled man who took on the fat bankers.... and won.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Can't say that I have a favorite. I regard presidents as being either effective or ineffective in their work. I'll list three presidents that I feel are on each end of that.

Effective:

Abraham Lincoln: Reasons obvious. Probably the closest I have to 'favorite'.

Andrew Jackson: I detest his treatement of the Native American populace, but he did pave the way for the expansion of the United States. He also layed the ground work for the modern system of the federal government.

Franklin Roosevelt: SEC, FDIC, Social Security, minimum wage. Love him or not, those are now fixtures American governance.

Ineffective:

Andrew Johnson: Really botched reconstruction, didn't he?

William Henry Harrison: Sorry, but you can't be effective when you are in office for only 30 days.

Warren Harding: Too much poker, not enough watching the treasury department.

Excellent post!

My favorite was Lincoln for obvious reasons, followed by Reagan. Reagan's ability to communicate to many as though it were a private conversation was incredible. Also, I find his policies to be largely responsible for an expedited, chilled ending to the Cold War.

[Sailor Steve]

George Washington. He could have been a military dictator, but he stepped down when the time came, and threatened to court-martial anyone who suggested otherwise. He could have been king, but made sure that was impossible. When John Adams wanted Congress to give Washington the title "His Excellency, the President of the United States and Defender of Their Freedoms", it was Washington who suggested a more appropriate title might be "Mister President".

There hasn't been one like him since.

[Oberon]

Being a European, I'm rather on the outside when it comes to US Presidents, however, and I'm more of a center-left in regards to my political views, but my favourite president is most likely Ronald Reagan. It was his ability to communicate to the public that I liked, and his humour.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Oberon

and his humour.

Nah Bush is even funnier. He's funny even when he didn't mean it .

[CaptainMattJ.]

what most people dont know is that lincoln wasnt as big an abolitionist as propaganda has inferred. Lincoln basically banned slavery as Punishment to the south for breaking off in the first place. The south's entire economy was pretty much based on slaves. Lincoln didntlike slavery, sure , but he didnt go out and start the war bbecause of it. it came towards the end. He also imprisoned anyone speaking out against him, calling them "a threat to national security".

Clinton was great. he really got america in tip top shape. Now bush F-ed all that up, and now Obama has to be the one who gets pelted by fruit in town square. Bush REALLY Screwed this country up, and just cause obama isnt getting it done in 4 years doesnt mean Jack. Obama is......decent...... but hes not good enough to fix it up ASAP. Its not his fault that republicans are Fighting him EVERY single step of the way. The health care bill Got mangled and screwed up and now it sucks. Now health care REQURES you to have insurance, and the only game in town is private insurance companies. Republicans Only care about corporations, and thats a FAAAAAAAAACT. They couldnt Give a God dam about this country, just the people on top. Their motto is "screw the middle class" and its ingraved in stone. then again, DEMOCRATS are Greedy A holes too. ESPECIALLY in California. BOth parties are corrupt, and as ong as they are in power this country will fall.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

what most people dont know is that lincoln wasnt as big an abolitionist as propaganda has inferred. Lincoln basically banned slavery as Punishment to the south for breaking off in the first place. The south's entire economy was pretty much based on slaves. Lincoln didntlike slavery, sure , but he didnt go out and start the war bbecause of it. it came towards the end. He also imprisoned anyone speaking out against him, calling them "a threat to national security".

Clinton was great. he really got america in tip top shape. Now bush F-ed all that up, and now Obama has to be the one who gets pelted by fruit in town square. Bush REALLY Screwed this country up, and just cause obama isnt getting it done in 4 years doesnt mean Jack. Obama is......decent...... but hes not good enough to fix it up ASAP. Its not his fault that republicans are Fighting him EVERY single step of the way. The health care bill Got mangled and screwed up and now it sucks. Now health care REQURES you to have insurance, and the only game in town is private insurance companies. Republicans Only care about corporations, and thats a FAAAAAAAAACT. They couldnt Give a God dam about this country, just the people on top. Their motto is "screw the middle class" and its ingraved in stone. then again, DEMOCRATS are Greedy A holes too. ESPECIALLY in California. BOth parties are corrupt, and as ong as they are in power this country will fall.

You know, I did not want this to be a thread for argument, just statement but this was just bull so I must respond.


Lincoln gets too much praise, I find him to be a terrible President who is highly overrated.Sure, he did some good things but did a lot of terrible things as well such as not allowing criticism, traits of a tyrant and dictator for sure.

Clinton is overrated, he could play that working class hero crap well so it helped him with the masses.Clinton was a lot like Obama his first two years, but Republicans took control of Congress and Clinton began to govern from the center(somewhat) as the economy rebounded and thus secured his reelection, plus Bob Dole was not exactly a great candidate.Not to get start on Obama but Obama will not do the same because Obama is too much of an ideologue.Congress was controlled by Republicans for most of Clinton's Presidency and were the safeguard against Clinton's more Leftist ambitions.Clinton would be looked at much different had Republicans not won the mid terms in 94.

[Bubblehead1980]

Tie with Reagan and George Washington.As another poster pointed out, George Washington could have been a dictator but he was a great man who did not want that.

Ronald Reagan of course.Reagan was an everyman, essentially a regular guy who moved up in his career then got involved with politics because he hated where the country was going.Reagan fought the good fight and despite the detractors, he won in 1980 and turned the economy around while defeating the Soviets, who we had dicked around with since the murder of JFK.Reagan left office with a 64% approval rating and a recovered economy, best modern President.

No offense but some of you guys should really think about FDR.I used to admire him but things I've learned over past few years, he was not so great.Wartime leadership was excellent but his economics, ehhh not so much.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

Clinton was great. he really got america in tip top shape. Now bush F-ed all that up, and now Obama has to be the one who gets pelted by fruit in town square. Bush REALLY Screwed this country up, and just cause obama isnt getting it done in 4 years doesnt mean Jack.

I should point out to you that the one of the major causes of the gobal economic crisis was the collapse of the housing market, in no small part due to the issuance of subprime mortgages financed by the tax incentives given by HUD. This, of course, was begun in 1996 under the Clinton administration. The same administration was also, largely, asleep at the switch in regards to Islamic terror; paving the way for the attacks in 2001.

Bubblehead, I stand by my assessment of Franklin Roosevelt. You may not like him, but his mark on American governance is indelible.