Compatibilities, Compatibilities, Compatibilities..

Originally Posted by GMU

JSGME is no how responsible for any CTD's. Mods that conflict one with another does. Or when RTFM mode is not triggered. So as long as there will be cold attitude towards solving the compatibilitie issues, we're going to be stuck on to choose between what suits one's taste better. Another option - make it compatible yourself which is actually a PITA and depressing..

GMU - I must admit that I find your comments quite un-called for!

As Steve said earlier - The modders do it for themselves, to them creating a mod is just as fun as playing the game. Are you aware how many UI mods are out there? If every modder had to think about every other mod when creating their own, then to be honest I don't thin that we would have any mods at-all! The fun would have been sucked right out of it!

I myself switch between mods regularly, trying different ones out. Some that I like I keep loaded, some can even be edited to work together.

To be entirely honest, I think it's a little harsh to start bashing the modders when the climate in the Silent Hunter world is already too heated as it is. Ubi have already practically said that the future of SHV relies on them, do they really need any more pressure of expectation on their shoulders?

To the modders - Keep going exactly as you are, you produce fantastic work every day, and the Silent Hunter series would have been long dead without you!

Regards,

Sev.

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Supermods are sometimes made by one modder like Ducimus, working his ass off for months on end in order to produce a mod that enhances the game, and includes several other smaller mods that he has included with the permission of the relevant modders.

He always posted a compatibility alert list regarding Trigger Maru. With JSGME and any version of Trigger Maru, Stevie Wonder could have modded Silent Hunter 4 without getting conflicts.

I run 16 mods in Silent Hunter 4 with no conflicts.

As for Silent Hunter 5....until or unless it's fully patched, I won't be attempting to play or mod it.

Well I deeply doubt you ever see SH5 patched to the end lol. Knowing UBI's drop and forget policy it would be rather fiction than close to reality. Not any of previous SH series were never fully patched, so basically I wish UBI would announce 1.2 as a final "patch" as soon as possible and rid us of painfull illusions to hope for a next patch that will probably never come. I have no doubt that some modders are waiting for that moment to get seriously their hands onto SH5. One modder is good but a group of modders is even more better, working this way they will not overmod each others work and could concentrate on specific tasks they are best in.

TeamWork always wins remember ? Copyrighted by GWX.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by krashkart

I remember seeing that. It's from an alternative history mod, isn't it?

SH2 didn't have 3D interiors, but screens representing each station. Mods were made to change the look of each station. This was one of the several made for the Captain's Cabin.

On a side note, in the early days of SH3 more than one player complained that since SH2 had "a full interior" why didn't SH3?

[krashkart]

Ah okay, I thought it was from an SH3 mod because I'd first seen the screenshot in the SH3 forum. The author has great taste in lingerie.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by GMU

Another option - make it compatible yourself which is actually a PITA and depressing.

What you don't seem to understand is that so is modding. It's hard work for anyone, including the people you demand do it for you.

TeamWork always wins remember ? Copyrighted by GWX.

So put together a team and start modding!

What you fail to understand by reading is that I will never mod. I'm not a modder ok ? I would appreciate if you remeber this once and for all. Modders are for making mods. Users are for using their mods. This is how things work. And I would be glad if you stop accusing me for wanting good to become better. But your silly remarks and offers does not fit the subject nor the title of the thread.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by GMU

What you fail to understand by reading is that I will never mod. I'm not a modder ok ? I would appreciate if you remeber this once and for all. Modders are for making mods. Users are for using their mods. This is how things work. And I would be glad if you stop accusing me for wanting good to become better. But your silly remarks and offers does not fit the subject nor the title of the thread.

lol - just - lol.

[Arclight]

You're not making any friends here.

We'll leave the difference, or similarity, between stating "I'm not a modder" and "I can't be bothered to learn" out of it, but that kind of excludes you from making any demands, or even voicing these kinds of expectations.


At any rate, we should see more cooperation as the game matures. Everyone is starting off with smaller projects, building upon them and expanding, while others do the same. Eventually it will reach a point where individual projects are considered complete, and integration of them can begin. Trying to keep things compatible while new versions are being released constantly is like bailing water from a sunken boat; you can't keep up.

We don't even know if this is the final version yet.

[SteelViking]

Originally Posted by GMU

What you fail to understand by reading is that I will never mod. I'm not a modder ok ? I would appreciate if you remeber this once and for all. Modders are for making mods. Users are for using their mods. This is how things work. And I would be glad if you stop accusing me for wanting good to become better. But your silly remarks and offers does not fit the subject nor the title of the thread.

I don't mean to be rude, and I don't mean to offend you. But, this statement is absolutely insane.

Modders are for making mods? What are we, some kind of slaves? Plus, I don't appreciate Sailor Steve's statements being called silly since what he says is right on the mark if you ask me.

Originally Posted by robbo180265

lol - just - lol.

You got the right idea, I suppose the best reaction would be humor.

[sergei]

Originally Posted by GMU

Modders are for making mods. Users are for using their mods.

Originally Posted by SteelViking

Modders are for making mods? What are we, some kind of slaves?

Grown in a lab for this very purpose, perhaps?
Or constructed maybe, like Cylons.
Are you a Cylon SteelViking?

Originally Posted by Arclight

You're not making any friends here.

We'll leave the difference, or similarity, between stating "I'm not a modder" and "I can't be bothered to learn" out of it, but that kind of excludes you from making any demands, or even voicing these kinds of expectations.


At any rate, we should see more cooperation as the game matures. Everyone is starting off with smaller projects, building upon them and expanding, while others do the same. Eventually it will reach a point where individual projects are considered complete, and integration of them can begin. Trying to keep things compatible while new versions are being released constantly is like bailing water from a sunken boat; you can't keep up.

We don't even know if this is the final version yet.

I'm also expecting to see more cooperation between moders soon. But actually I'm not demanding to make me a mod or make them compatible as for me only. Don;t know how such interpretation got famous around here.. But if a raise of a question about compatibilities is to be considered as a demand then close this thread and hide it. And pls somebody liberate ppl from thoughts that wanting a bit more than it is will leave them with nothing..

Originally Posted by SteelViking

I don't mean to be rude, and I don't mean to offend you. But, this statement is absolutely insane.

Modders are for making mods? What are we, some kind of slaves? Plus, I don't appreciate Sailor Steve's statements being called silly since what he says is right on the mark if you ask me.




You got the right idea, I suppose the best reaction would be humor.

Wow Bingo, who still didn't knew that modders are for making mods please be aware. IT REALY IS A TRUE YA KNOW

[SteelViking]

Originally Posted by sergei

Grown in a lab for this very purpose, perhaps?
Or constructed maybe, like Cylons.
Are you a Cylon SteelViking?

Darn, you figured out my secret

[SteelViking]

Originally Posted by GMU

Wow Bingo, who still didn't knew that modders are for making mods please be aware. IT REALY IS A TRUE YA KNOW

This is the only reaction I can possibly muster at this point: