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danzig70 · 12-02-10, 01:38 PM

I want to develop a land, sea and air simulator and it seems that FlightGear is a good start. It is open source and there are (or were) attempts to combine all three sims discussed here http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php...tion_Resources

So this is my long term project. I have to learn 3d modeling first but its nice to know there is a path to follow.

TarJak · 12-02-10, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by danzig70

For SH3 players, I have included the KM grid map. I am having a problem matching the land masses exactly which might be a projection problem. It is a work in progress. I will include a help file to explain how to change the lat/long of the icon to reflect your current location.

Its definately a projection problem. The SH3 world is a cylinder displayed as a flat map. One method of handling it would be to work out the coords of the KM grid and map them onto the globe.

danzig70 · 12-02-10, 06:41 PM

The image was placed using the coordinates on the map. I just have to determine which projection they used and then convert it to UTM. The image is here http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radio...d.php?t=162195

Actually cant realistically correct a projection problem. Will look for another image.

TarJak · 12-03-10, 05:26 AM

Most likely a Millers Cylindrical projection.

Tessa · 12-03-10, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pickinthebanjo

Most harbors are 20m+/-, however there are exceptions, Gibraltar is at least 30m deep

There are spots in Gibraltor where it is 80m deep as well. Whenever the weather is awful (whether its enormous waves and/or heavy rain) is the best time to get into harbor's easily. With visibility so poor (remember this goes both ways, by the time you spot a trawler its close enough to easily sink you) you can sometimes go in on the surface in the daytime. Or if you do go in submerged find a nice spot in the middle or a blind spot to surface long enough to replenish the O2 so you don't suffocate trying to get out.

danzig70 · 12-28-10, 10:09 AM

Added the SH3 map to WorldWind. Once I figure out how SH3 tiles the map, I hope to add those tiles to WW. Hopefully with the KM grid sections.

Jimbuna · 12-29-10, 04:27 PM

This could be promising.

danzig70 · 01-27-11, 10:47 AM

I never said thank you for the positive words, Jimbuna, it means alot. Im working on a good way to edit the config file which has the lat/long for the icon.

Here is a shot of zoomed in to the player icon based in Kiel.

I saw this screenshot for a ship tracker program and thought how could this would be for the Mission Editor.

http://www.airnavsystems.com/shiptrax/

Jimbuna · 01-28-11, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by danzig70

I never said thank you for the positive words, Jimbuna, it means alot. Im working on a good way to edit the config file which has the lat/long for the icon.

My pleasure matey...be sure to keep us all updated

danzig70 · 03-03-11, 03:58 PM

So, I am toying with the idea of making a ship tracker per the screenshots below. The idea is to simulate AIS maps like here http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ and here http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml.

I added map notes to the ME for two test ships that contain origin, destination and cargo, like a manifest. The ships are assigned an ID code as the name when placed on the map. I created two entries in a ship database (xls,csv) that contain detailed information on the ship as well as a link to a photograph (in game or actual).

I am trying to simulate activities such as anti-piracy and routine maritime patrols. One thing I want to expand is position reporting of cargo ships like the sites above. The map notes are accessible as entries in the SCR file which is just a text file. The CFG files in My Doc/SH3 can be read as they are also just text files. I am thinking of using Javascript or Lua to read the files.

Attacks are logged in the CFG files just fine but I want to be able to simulate reporting on friendly and nuetral traffic. The Report Contacts report, unfortunately, does not seem to write an event in the log book. Can this be modified?

When a game is saved, however, it records the circles, angles and marks placed on the navigation map into a temp file that is also a text file. The latitude and longitude of each feature is recorded. I was thinking of using this to record the position of the sighting but if the game is not saved, this file is not created (or saved).

I was thinking of trying to simulate pirate and criminal vessels by creating a "pirate" country. Plenty of armed merchants to choose from. If you spot a vessel and ID it using the database, then it could be a pirate vessel which can be sunk. Something like that.

Is there a way to either modify the report contact feature to record in the log file or a way to capture map marks without having to save the game?

More important, would anyone be interested in such a thing? I thought it might be a nice feature for SH3Commander. I will work on just mapping the sinkings to test the concept.

Also, I guess the Cap' would have to fill in the heading and speed information. The tedious part of war, I suppose.

Jimbuna · 03-04-11, 06:52 PM

Sounds plausable.

danzig70 · 03-06-11, 01:35 PM

I guess it cant run when SH3 is running. But maybe it could be useful for planning purposes and tracking career progress.

Jimbuna · 03-06-11, 05:29 PM

I use the ME for the former, especially whilst testing but the latter use sounds good.

danzig70 · 03-07-11, 08:43 AM

Some of the lat/long info doesnt appear to be in degrees:

Long=962852.000000
Lat=6974492.000000

Do you know if this is meters from center (equater-meridian)?

EDIT: It seems SH3Gen does this already. Oh Well.

danzig70 · 04-29-11, 04:03 AM

Here are a few screenshots of the user interface Im working on. There is an SH3 icon which links to the game shortcut. Some of the imagery is impressive because you can tilt the camera 360 degrees. Thought submariners might like the bathymetry image.

This is the Bay of Biscay

This is a good example of satellite, aerial and topographic images.

This topographic map is from 1934 so I dont think the Uboat pens have been contructed. I believe they were only in Cadiz, Spain and Abo, Finland.

12-02-10, 01:38 PM	#31
danzig70 Planesman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 195 Downloads: 290 Uploads: 0	I want to develop a land, sea and air simulator and it seems that FlightGear is a good start. It is open source and there are (or were) attempts to combine all three sims discussed here http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php...tion_Resources So this is my long term project. I have to learn 3d modeling first but its nice to know there is a path to follow. __________________

12-02-10, 06:41 PM	#33
danzig70 Planesman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 195 Downloads: 290 Uploads: 0	The image was placed using the coordinates on the map. I just have to determine which projection they used and then convert it to UTM. The image is here http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radio...d.php?t=162195 Actually cant realistically correct a projection problem. Will look for another image. __________________ Last edited by danzig70; 12-28-10 at 10:08 AM.

12-28-10, 10:09 AM	#36
danzig70 Planesman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 195 Downloads: 290 Uploads: 0	Added the SH3 map to WorldWind. Once I figure out how SH3 tiles the map, I hope to add those tiles to WW. Hopefully with the KM grid sections. __________________

12-29-10, 04:27 PM	#37
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,630 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	This could be promising. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-27-11, 10:47 AM	#38
danzig70 Planesman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 195 Downloads: 290 Uploads: 0	I never said thank you for the positive words, Jimbuna, it means alot. Im working on a good way to edit the config file which has the lat/long for the icon. Here is a shot of zoomed in to the player icon based in Kiel. I saw this screenshot for a ship tracker program and thought how could this would be for the Mission Editor. http://www.airnavsystems.com/shiptrax/ __________________ Last edited by danzig70; 02-22-11 at 11:36 AM.

12-03-10, 05:26 AM	#34
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Most likely a Millers Cylindrical projection.

03-03-11, 03:58 PM	#40
danzig70 Planesman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 195 Downloads: 290 Uploads: 0	So, I am toying with the idea of making a ship tracker per the screenshots below. The idea is to simulate AIS maps like here http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ and here http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml. I added map notes to the ME for two test ships that contain origin, destination and cargo, like a manifest. The ships are assigned an ID code as the name when placed on the map. I created two entries in a ship database (xls,csv) that contain detailed information on the ship as well as a link to a photograph (in game or actual). I am trying to simulate activities such as anti-piracy and routine maritime patrols. One thing I want to expand is position reporting of cargo ships like the sites above. The map notes are accessible as entries in the SCR file which is just a text file. The CFG files in My Doc/SH3 can be read as they are also just text files. I am thinking of using Javascript or Lua to read the files. Attacks are logged in the CFG files just fine but I want to be able to simulate reporting on friendly and nuetral traffic. The Report Contacts report, unfortunately, does not seem to write an event in the log book. Can this be modified? When a game is saved, however, it records the circles, angles and marks placed on the navigation map into a temp file that is also a text file. The latitude and longitude of each feature is recorded. I was thinking of using this to record the position of the sighting but if the game is not saved, this file is not created (or saved). I was thinking of trying to simulate pirate and criminal vessels by creating a "pirate" country. Plenty of armed merchants to choose from. If you spot a vessel and ID it using the database, then it could be a pirate vessel which can be sunk. Something like that. Is there a way to either modify the report contact feature to record in the log file or a way to capture map marks without having to save the game? More important, would anyone be interested in such a thing? I thought it might be a nice feature for SH3Commander. I will work on just mapping the sinkings to test the concept. Also, I guess the Cap' would have to fill in the heading and speed information. The tedious part of war, I suppose. __________________

03-04-11, 06:52 PM	#41
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,630 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Sounds plausable. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-06-11, 01:35 PM	#42
danzig70 Planesman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 195 Downloads: 290 Uploads: 0	I guess it cant run when SH3 is running. But maybe it could be useful for planning purposes and tracking career progress. __________________

03-06-11, 05:29 PM	#43
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,630 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I use the ME for the former, especially whilst testing but the latter use sounds good. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-07-11, 08:43 AM	#44
danzig70 Planesman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 195 Downloads: 290 Uploads: 0	Some of the lat/long info doesnt appear to be in degrees: Long=962852.000000 Lat=6974492.000000 Do you know if this is meters from center (equater-meridian)? EDIT: It seems SH3Gen does this already. Oh Well. __________________ Last edited by danzig70; 03-08-11 at 06:32 PM.

04-29-11, 04:03 AM	#45
danzig70 Planesman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 195 Downloads: 290 Uploads: 0	Here are a few screenshots of the user interface Im working on. There is an SH3 icon which links to the game shortcut. Some of the imagery is impressive because you can tilt the camera 360 degrees. Thought submariners might like the bathymetry image. This is the Bay of Biscay This is a good example of satellite, aerial and topographic images. This topographic map is from 1934 so I dont think the Uboat pens have been contructed. I believe they were only in Cadiz, Spain and Abo, Finland. __________________