[REL] U-boat Historical Specifications (UHS) - Page 3

Capt Jack Harkness · 04-28-10, 08:24 PM

Right, and that's just silly. But it would be cool if you could throw in a slightly postivie or negative bouyancy (perhaps random depending on the boat) so that with no speed hitting the surface or the bottom would be inevitable. Aside from the realism, it'd mean you could no longer camp out and wait for the destroyers to lose interest unless you were grounded.

But of course, maintaining accurate depth control is the most important thing above all else.

speedbird · 04-30-10, 11:20 AM

Really need to keep an eye on the fuel consumption now...

Very nice ddrgn!

ddrgn · 04-30-10, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedbird

Really need to keep an eye on the fuel consumption now...

Very nice ddrgn!

Yes you certainly do ;]

04-30-10, 11:57 AM

Thanks ddrgn. the bobbing was killing me. Even with these other mods for it. Im still not happy.. This looks like it did the trick. Sub looks like it sits a little lower in the water and looks correct. that will also help me with the added wave height i just did on my sh5. Again thanks a lot great work.

ddrgn · 05-12-10, 01:27 PM

This mod is now patch 1.2 compatible.

Download version 1.3.

Sailor Steve · 05-12-10, 05:05 PM

I apparently missed this one first time around.

pythos · 05-14-10, 10:59 AM

Maybe I did something wrong, but the boats seem to sit way the heck to low in the water, their decks are awash most of the time.

They also appear to bob like bath tub toys.

I tried this out on a fresh install, patched up, and got the same results.

furby · 05-14-10, 12:10 PM

dont know if ive done something wrong but my obbs scope is underwater 90% of the time at PD with this mod.

ddrgn · 05-14-10, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pythos

Maybe I did something wrong, but the boats seem to sit way the heck to low in the water, their decks are awash most of the time.

They also appear to bob like bath tub toys.

I tried this out on a fresh install, patched up, and got the same results.

Sure ya did.

ddrgn · 05-14-10, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by furby

dont know if ive done something wrong but my obbs scope is underwater 90% of the time at PD with this mod.

PD is modified some, in heavy waters you may need to adjust your depth manually.

kylania · 05-14-10, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pythos

Maybe I did something wrong, but the boats seem to sit way the heck to low in the water, their decks are awash most of the time.

They also appear to bob like bath tub toys.

I tried this out on a fresh install, patched up, and got the same results.

I got the same thing. Brand new campaign and my VIIA was constantly at 6m instead of 5m on the surface. Kept getting the "underwater" icon, but at least the hatch wasn't closing on me.

A dive order took me to 105m instead of 100m as well.

pythos · 05-14-10, 02:04 PM

Okay, I got some good results by,

1) changing the cg height to 3.0
2) Left the longitudinal position of the cg alone
3) changed the surface draught from 5.75, to 4.75
4) In the sub cfg file changed surface depth to 4.

These changes have resulted in some really good roll characteristics, in stormy conditions, or during heavy surface maneuvers in calm weather.

On calm waters the boat does not bob as bad, and slices through the water nicely. When maneuvers at flank speed are performed the boat will lean into the turn. This is the case under water as well.

In 15 knot wind the pitch is close to perfect. With the CG set at 3.0, the boat will roll really far every now and then. My experience is that it reaches the limit of what the camera can handle which results in an undesirable "popping up" effect. This will sometimes require the use of shift U, to get you back on deck.

If any one can figure out how to remove this problem, we can possibly have the boat lean further. The roll is not have high rates, it is slow roll, like that of a heavy boat like a sub.

(note: This changes were done on the mod of this thread. If you try to apply a CG height of more than 2.5, on the unmodded subs, the boat will capsize even in calm water.)

This mod is great, and with these changes it is wayyyyy better than stock.

R-T-B · 05-14-10, 02:46 PM

Could you possibly upload your changes?

ddrgn · 05-14-10, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylania

I got the same thing. Brand new campaign and my VIIA was constantly at 6m instead of 5m on the surface. Kept getting the "underwater" icon, but at least the hatch wasn't closing on me.

A dive order took me to 105m instead of 100m as well.

The A has problems to begin with, in stock it wont maintain depth when at low speed. You will slowly sink. To fix this problem displacement is adjusted but it wont maintain depth perfectly as ordered. A few meter difference doesn't do much, just keep your eye on your depth and compensate.

ddrgn · 05-14-10, 02:58 PM

FYI - Wind speed, wind direction and your position into the wind has a lot to do with the behavior of the boat. Test in various conditions and always turn your boat N,S,E,W and note the changes.

04-30-10, 11:57 AM	#34
KillerTube Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	nice Thanks ddrgn. the bobbing was killing me. Even with these other mods for it. Im still not happy.. This looks like it did the trick. Sub looks like it sits a little lower in the water and looks correct. that will also help me with the added wave height i just did on my sh5. Again thanks a lot great work.

05-12-10, 01:27 PM	#35
ddrgn Korvettenkapitän Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 918 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 30	This mod is now patch 1.2 compatible. Download version 1.3. __________________ ddrgn mods: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=217261

05-12-10, 05:05 PM	#36
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I apparently missed this one first time around. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-14-10, 02:04 PM	#42
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Okay, I got some good results by, 1) changing the cg height to 3.0 2) Left the longitudinal position of the cg alone 3) changed the surface draught from 5.75, to 4.75 4) In the sub cfg file changed surface depth to 4. These changes have resulted in some really good roll characteristics, in stormy conditions, or during heavy surface maneuvers in calm weather. On calm waters the boat does not bob as bad, and slices through the water nicely. When maneuvers at flank speed are performed the boat will lean into the turn. This is the case under water as well. In 15 knot wind the pitch is close to perfect. With the CG set at 3.0, the boat will roll really far every now and then. My experience is that it reaches the limit of what the camera can handle which results in an undesirable "popping up" effect. This will sometimes require the use of shift U, to get you back on deck. If any one can figure out how to remove this problem, we can possibly have the boat lean further. The roll is not have high rates, it is slow roll, like that of a heavy boat like a sub. (note: This changes were done on the mod of this thread. If you try to apply a CG height of more than 2.5, on the unmodded subs, the boat will capsize even in calm water.) This mod is great, and with these changes it is wayyyyy better than stock. Last edited by pythos; 05-14-10 at 02:28 PM.

05-14-10, 02:58 PM	#45
ddrgn Korvettenkapitän Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 918 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 30	FYI - Wind speed, wind direction and your position into the wind has a lot to do with the behavior of the boat. Test in various conditions and always turn your boat N,S,E,W and note the changes. __________________ ddrgn mods: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=217261

04-28-10, 08:24 PM	#31
Capt Jack Harkness Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 567 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 1	Right, and that's just silly. But it would be cool if you could throw in a slightly postivie or negative bouyancy (perhaps random depending on the boat) so that with no speed hitting the surface or the bottom would be inevitable. Aside from the realism, it'd mean you could no longer camp out and wait for the destroyers to lose interest unless you were grounded. But of course, maintaining accurate depth control is the most important thing above all else.

04-30-10, 11:20 AM	#32
speedbird Gunner Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Brighton, UK Posts: 91 Downloads: 127 Uploads: 0	Really need to keep an eye on the fuel consumption now... Very nice ddrgn!

05-14-10, 10:59 AM	#37
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Maybe I did something wrong, but the boats seem to sit way the heck to low in the water, their decks are awash most of the time. They also appear to bob like bath tub toys. I tried this out on a fresh install, patched up, and got the same results.

05-14-10, 12:10 PM	#38
furby Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 125 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	dont know if ive done something wrong but my obbs scope is underwater 90% of the time at PD with this mod.

05-14-10, 02:46 PM	#43
R-T-B Sparky Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 150 Downloads: 324 Uploads: 5	Could you possibly upload your changes?