How's the hold out crowd holding up?

[609_Avatar]

Doing just fine here. I actually have this OSP thing to thank for me checking out my old copy of SHIII. Amazing what's been done with it and now that it will use my full 32" wide screen monitor it looks better than ever. I'm still enjoying SHIV very much (especially with OM!) and get plenty of my eye-candy fix there. I love the look of SHV and some of the "improvements", like Wolfpacks (anyone actually get it to work in game yet?) for example but many things turn me off. Having to go all over the ship, like S.S says during combat I shouldn't have to run around to convey info/orders, the morale system, some of the targeting aspects, etc. All of this is assuming that what we've read is just not people not having figured it out yet- and how lame is that? You have to figure stuff out instead of read how it works in a manual... So the bottom line for me is I'm not missing it at all. Part of me would love to check it out first hand instead of through reading other people's opinions but I will never give the false impression that I support this type of DRM by purchasing it. Once that is gone I will order immediately so I can form my own first-hand opinion.

IMO i am not missing out on a thing really, maybe as a modderator i read more posts then most but everything i know about how things are going tells me that even with the 50 something mods already out there for it, its still not worth having until such a time as the game has been completely rebuilt from the ground up with some major work by a super mod.

this opinion is not even considering the DRM requirement issue, it is how i feel even if the DRM was removed yesterday i would still feel its not worth buying yet.

i really do see things in the game that can have great possiblities but its nowhere near ready IMO for me to spend money on it.

im actually very greatfull the DRM issue prevented me from buying the game when it was released, IMO its really only worth $10 in the bargin bin.

[theluckyone17]

Walked past it on the shelf at Best Buy. Picked it up. Looked over the packaging. Laughed at the "Permanent Internet Connection Required" sticker. Gave mental kudos to Ubisoft for its placement and size. Put it back on the shelf, and walked away.

Until the DRM is gone, I won't be playing SH5 or any other Ubisoft product.

[danurve]

This 'hold-out' is doing great, I bought and am playing SHIV for the 1st time and find it to be a great game. Didn't think I'd like the Fleet Boats, I was wrong.

I'd like to buy SHV but flat out refuse to.
I see Ubi's OSP-DRM as a solid brick 'firewall' with my money on one side and Ubi's big nose sniffing about on the other. It 'nose' my cash is there but ain't gettin it till the bricks come down. If the bricks never come down and SHIV is the last to be on my PC? So be it.

[capt-jones]

you guys dont know wot you are missing i was one of the first too complain about starfarce chewing up cd drives and raved about the no cd patch for SH3 but it did'nt stop me buying it,where are they now(years later)in davy jones locker where they should have always been,so dont just take it lying down , life is too short go get SH5 and drive it like you stole it .a true submariner would'nt hesitate , its only a matter of time that you will get it anyway,go and treat yourself you know you deserve it

[LiveGoat]

Originally Posted by Cavell

Oh, I'm sure it's certainly more immersive. However, I'm sure it also gets quite old having to run the length of the ship to get certain things done, if that is in fact the case.

You should absolutely do what you want. If you're opposed to the DRM, stick to your guns. Ubi's hoping you don't. If you're not that opposed and want to play, then buy the game.

If you stick it out, you'll be able to wait until the price drops, there have been some patches released, and the mods have been polished to a brilliant shine. If you don't, you'll get to play it right away and have your curiosity sated. Up to you.

Church's key layout and the modified UI from Darkwraith make it so I can pretty much do Everything I did in SH3. The only time the game feels "different" to me is when I'm on the bridge and order scope/dive/crash.

[KL-alfman]

intended to buy a new machine for SH5 I could save some money for the time being thanks to UBI.
when U-p(ay but cannot p)lay is dropped I might give it a try. until then I stay with SH3+GWX and the many many new mods which were released just recently or are soon to be.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by capt-jones

you guys dont know wot you are missing i was one of the first too complain about starfarce chewing up cd drives and raved about the no cd patch for SH3 but it did'nt stop me buying it,where are they now(years later)in davy jones locker where they should have always been,so dont just take it lying down , life is too short go get SH5 and drive it like you stole it .a true submariner would'nt hesitate , its only a matter of time that you will get it anyway,go and treat yourself you know you deserve it

I never had any problems with StarForce. On the other hand I don't have an internet connection, so I can't play SH5 even if I wanted to. While you're here telling me how wonderful it is, can you tell people who don't have connections or travel to out-of-the-way places exactly how they can run it?

[Letum]

Holding out just fine.
With Neal's review not recommending anyone buy it and the forums
littered with bugs, downed servers, missing features and all manner of
problems, sticking to ones principles isn't difficult at all!

[The Enigma]

Originally Posted by Boats

I count myself in the group, holding out until the DRM issue is deleted. BUT curiosity is attacking this cat. I come here and read the posts daily hoping for a big announcement that's it's safe to get back into the SH waters. This might be a mistake since I've been itching to see what the flashing lights and pretty pictures look like. I am interested in this game so it's not like I wouldn't like to buy it, as a consequence my principles are warring with my curiosity lately. I even went as far as calling my local Gamestop to see if they have any copies. They have 1. I'm loosing my grip, need to be refreshed to continue the course. But only one copy in this area, must... resist. DRM Bones, DRM!!!

So how many have fallen so far? I'm at the edge, need to step away from the precipise. Only thing to see is the red of frustration, of this I'm aware. Frustration abounds if I go over.

For those tired of us wannabe SH5 skippers whining that we're not, back out of this post and shut the door behind you. Like I said, I want to buy SH5.

Well, I'm still holding out with no problem.
I'm not sure if I will ever gonna buy the game.
After reading Neal's review I don't think SH5 is my kinda game.
Chatting to my crew to get things done is not something what I have in mind
when playing a subsim simulation game.
Perhaps when the game is to be found in the bargain bin, I'll buy it as a
collectors item.

[UnSalted]

Haven't bought it, haven't been tempted to buy it ,and may never buy it since I honestly don't believe that paying a company for a flawed product is in anyone's best interest.

I'll wait and hope that another developer will look at the market for a good subsim and realize that Ubisoft's fubar is another company's open door.

[jdkbph]

Well, don't let it be said there's NO value here at all!

I was just going through the diving routine I described above... with me secure in the control room and my watch crew nowhere to be seen. So I hit F2 to look around outside and there they are on the bridge, just as expected, with the water swirling around their waists as the sub goes under. Only this time I had to stop and laugh out loud.

There above the Watch Officer's head, just as he disappears beneath the waves, is a [...] symbol indicating he has something to say. I tried to click on it, half expecting it to say something like WTF!!!!, but he teleported out before I could get my mouse cursor over there.

I wish I was able to get a screen shot of that...

JD

[Hanomag]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I completely agree: walking around the boat looks like fun while not in combat. In combat, I as the captain should be in the control room or conning tower, or on the bridge, giving orders directly, through speaking tubes or through messengers.

The way they apparently have it set up now seems silly - assuming the reports I'm reading are accurate and not that some people are just not understanding how to work it properly.

I AM WIT CHOO...!!!
Overall I am not impressed with what I have read so far...

[The Enigma]

Originally Posted by jdkbph

Well, don't let it be said there's NO value here at all!

I was just going through the diving routine I described above... with me secure in the control room and my watch crew nowhere to be seen. So I hit F2 to look around outside and there they are on the bridge, just as expected, with the water swirling around their waists as the sub goes under. Only this time I had to stop and laugh out loud.

There above the Watch Officer's head, just as he disappears beneath the waves, is a [...] symbol indicating he has something to say. I tried to click on it, half expecting it to say something like WTF!!!!, but he teleported out before I could get my mouse cursor over there.

I wish I was able to get a screen shot of that...

JD

[fireship4]

Holding out just fine - though it has been a shame.

I did wonder recently whether I would have cared about this issue/thought it was wrong/noticed it if not for being a member here. Not only because it brought it to my attention - maybe I have just been swept into a mob fevour, fighting for freedom and values?

Hmm, a philosophical/psychologic question for me - again.

Nah I'll have a cigarette, play arma2, watch more DS9 and go to bed.