Where are the DRM fanboys this AM ? - Page 3

Armistead · 03-16-10, 01:59 PM

Place your bets...will the server go out this weekend for yet the third time in a row...? How many times does it have to fail before the fans say enough...

And I didn't buy it either.....so there.

Seriously, I wouldn't buy it, mod it or have anything to do with it until Ubi patches the hundred silly bugs and upholds it's promise that all you need is a internet connection...Sounds like plenty have working connections that can't play. Why support and fix a game when they obviously don't care. Fixing it just promotes more sales, in which they will be less likely to ever fix anything and DRM will become the norm. Stop supporting it in anyway and maybe they'll listen and down the road we'll actually have a playable game.

03-16-10, 02:01 PM

Why? Its ruining this forum, which used to be about submarine video games. Now its about DRM. Lawsuits, bugs, glitches, bad reviews and modifications.

"To each his own" only works when "He" keeps it to himself.

gimpy117 · 03-16-10, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by drtechno

Just curious.. since this is, what, now 2 or more times in as many weeks that you are unable to play "your" game?

where are the "DRM fanboys?"

i dunno probably out having a life somewhere

Platapus · 03-16-10, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MattDizzle

Im sick of arguing with you idiots, my game hasnt failed once, and im not going to convince you otherwise.

Find something else to whine about, you must have a really shallow life if you love arguing about a video game so much. Its like a weeklong rant on super mario brothers and how they have ruined your life.

Sorry, did I miss the memo that said you were forced to read this thread?

Don't like a thread, don't read it. It is not exactly rocket surgery.

DarkFish · 03-16-10, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MattDizzle

Im sick of arguing with you idiots

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Originally Posted by MattDizzle

^^^ Ahh, the dreaded "I know you are but what am i?" Technique... you are a skilled debater sir! ^^^

well obviously you aren't cause in a civil debate it isn't really customary to call everyone else an idiot..

BlackSpot · 03-16-10, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by drtechno

Just curious.. since this is, what, now 2 or more times in as many weeks that you are unable to play "your" game?

John Channing · 03-16-10, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

He has a good point though. Complaining about the complaints of others is somewhat ridiculous, to say the very least.

The point is that this is the Radio Room of Subsim.com. It's not...

IhateDRMschemes.com

ubisucks.com

Ineedtorant.com

gopiratesgo.com

letshaveanotherthreadaboutthesameoldbugs.com

thisisubisoftpleasecomplainhere.com

howcanicrackmygame.com

smug.com

imnotbuyingsh5.com

or any of the other things that a lot of our newer guests (and, sadly some of our longer standing ones) have turned it into.

So then, what is the Radio Room of Subsim.com then, you ask?

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...we want the Radio Room to be a civil, mature forum for discussions about naval and subsims, tactics, mods, playing tips, troubleshooting, and submarine topics in general.

Most of the threads in the last few weeks fall painfully short of that objective.

JCC

03-16-10, 02:37 PM

the only thing i can add to what john has said here is to clarify the term trolling

A Definition of "Forum Troll"

A "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous messages or comments merely to provoke people to respond. The Forum Troll delights in causing discord within a forum. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is deliberately controvertial, baiting and pulling people into a "flaming" discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling, a flame war that can result in a locked thread and infractions given out.

Please Don't Feed The Trolls

Trolling is a form of harassment or want for attention that can completely monopolize a forum discussion.

Well meaning defenders can create chaos simply by responding to trolls. The more responses a troll gets the more ammunition he has to stir things up further.

The best response is to ignore a troll to starve them of the attention they seek, or to report a message to a forum moderator.

03-16-10, 02:52 PM

Let me also clarify that my defense of DRM is not to start fights, but its difficult to hold my tounge.

Option A: Say something
Result: You are a troll

Option B: Say nothing
Result: Haha! He's not talking anymore, clearly we are masters of debate and as such we will continue to stuff this forum full of crappy threads about bugs and trying to connect to ubi servers on unreliable connections or during hacker attacks.

Piggy · 03-16-10, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MattDizzle

Im sick of arguing with you idiots, my game hasnt failed once, and im not going to convince you otherwise.

Find something else to whine about, you must have a really shallow life if you love arguing about a video game so much. Its like a weeklong rant on super mario brothers and how they have ruined your life.

Fire meet fuel...

NefariousKoel · 03-16-10, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thorn69

Actually, it's not "your" game. It's a license to play "their" game really.

You don't own the software, but the software owns you!

In Soviet Russia, game company owns YOU!

NefariousKoel · 03-16-10, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by John Channing

The point is that this is the Radio Room of Subsim.com. It's not...

IhateDRMschemes.com

ubisucks.com

Ineedtorant.com

gopiratesgo.com

letshaveanotherthreadaboutthesameoldbugs.com

thisisubisoftpleasecomplainhere.com

howcanicrackmygame.com

smug.com

imnotbuyingsh5.com

or any of the other things that a lot of our newer guests (and, sadly some of our longer standing ones) have turned it into.

So then, what is the Radio Room of Subsim.com then, you ask?

Most of the threads in the last few weeks fall painfully short of that objective.

JCC

Like it or not this subject is intimately related to SH5 as it is part of the game.

You can blame us whiners for trashing the forum but it's Ubi's decision that has turned this place into a circus. I'm glad people aren't giving in and are making their opinions heard. Even when told to take it elsewhere.

Sincerely,
Longer Standing Guest

Bilge_Rat · 03-16-10, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by John Channing

The point is that this is the Radio Room of Subsim.com. It's not...

IhateDRMschemes.com

ubisucks.com

Ineedtorant.com

gopiratesgo.com

letshaveanotherthreadaboutthesameoldbugs.com

thisisubisoftpleasecomplainhere.com

howcanicrackmygame.com

smug.com

imnotbuyingsh5.com

or any of the other things that a lot of our newer guests (and, sadly some of our longer standing ones) have turned it into.

So then, what is the Radio Room of Subsim.com then, you ask?

Most of the threads in the last few weeks fall painfully short of that objective.

JCC

thank you for posting that!

I spent some time yesterday looking through the subsim archives to see how SH3 was received back in 2005 and I was surprised by the difference.

first, there were a lot less posts, obviously we were a smaller community back then.

second, you also had similar posts where members complained or praised this or that aspect of the game.

But the biggest difference was the tone. Members disagreed, but everyone was respectful of other member's opinion, even when we discussed something as divisive as Starforce.

It was clear that all members were motivated by a mutual desire to improve SH3.

But something has changed, this forum now has a meaner, cruel overtone. Many posters are only interested in winning an argument, no matter what tactics they use, showing little or no respect and freely insulting anyone who disagrees with them.

I really don't like where this forum is going. It's not the old Subsim forum I used to know and like to hang around in.

Méo · 03-16-10, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by drtechno

Just curious.. since this is, what, now 2 or more times in as many weeks that you are unable to play "your" game?

1) I've always been able to play SH5 so far.

2) Just curious.. Have you ever heard of ''NEUROSIS''

Effects and symptoms

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...anxiety, sadness or depression, anger, irritability, mental confusion, low sense of self-worth, etc., behavioral symptoms such as phobic avoidance, vigilance, impulsive and compulsive acts, lethargy, etc., cognitive problems such as unpleasant or disturbing thoughts, repetition of thoughts and obsession, habitual fantasizing, negativity and cynicism, etc. Interpersonally, neurosis involves dependency, aggressiveness, perfectionism, schizoid isolation, socio-culturally inappropriate behaviors, etc.

Nisgeis · 03-16-10, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

the same way games like WOW don't experience piracy on-line.

WoW has been cracked and played by pirates for many years, so did in fact experience piracy. Whether that affected the actual bottom line, then that's all down to PR spin.

03-16-10, 01:59 PM	#31
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Place your bets...will the server go out this weekend for yet the third time in a row...? How many times does it have to fail before the fans say enough... And I didn't buy it either.....so there. Seriously, I wouldn't buy it, mod it or have anything to do with it until Ubi patches the hundred silly bugs and upholds it's promise that all you need is a internet connection...Sounds like plenty have working connections that can't play. Why support and fix a game when they obviously don't care. Fixing it just promotes more sales, in which they will be less likely to ever fix anything and DRM will become the norm. Stop supporting it in anyway and maybe they'll listen and down the road we'll actually have a playable game.

03-16-10, 02:01 PM	#32
MattDizzle Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Why? Its ruining this forum, which used to be about submarine video games. Now its about DRM. Lawsuits, bugs, glitches, bad reviews and modifications. "To each his own" only works when "He" keeps it to himself.

03-16-10, 02:37 PM	#38
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	the only thing i can add to what john has said here is to clarify the term trolling A Definition of "Forum Troll" A "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous messages or comments merely to provoke people to respond. The Forum Troll delights in causing discord within a forum. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is deliberately controvertial, baiting and pulling people into a "flaming" discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling, a flame war that can result in a locked thread and infractions given out. Please Don't Feed The Trolls Trolling is a form of harassment or want for attention that can completely monopolize a forum discussion. Well meaning defenders can create chaos simply by responding to trolls. The more responses a troll gets the more ammunition he has to stir things up further. The best response is to ignore a troll to starve them of the attention they seek, or to report a message to a forum moderator.

03-16-10, 02:52 PM	#39
MattDizzle Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Let me also clarify that my defense of DRM is not to start fights, but its difficult to hold my tounge. Option A: Say something Result: You are a troll Option B: Say nothing Result: Haha! He's not talking anymore, clearly we are masters of debate and as such we will continue to stuff this forum full of crappy threads about bugs and trying to connect to ubi servers on unreliable connections or during hacker attacks.