Are you buying SHV - Page 3

Ducimus · 02-28-10, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Definitely not buying. My computer is my computer and will remain my computer if I have to write all my own software. Even the SecuRom in the Direct 2 Drive SH4UBM is invasive beyond its rights and all it does is scan your running processes for a list of Sony's prohibited software, including the completely benign and innocent Microsoft Process Explorer, just because it was written by the man who exposed Sony's infamous rootkit, costing Sony a huge sum of money.

So what does Ubi do? It jumps completely over to the dark side, confirming what we already knew. Ubi does not respect its customers. In fact, they don't have any customers, only criminals who deserve to be punished.

No thanks, Ubi. I live in a world of limitless possibilities, not in a concentration camp. Lacking the ability to enforce your concentration camp, you are destined to be its only occupant, except for those defrauded by the assumption that they are buying some kind of a fun game. God help them. But you, Ubi, are beyond even His help if you don't buy a couple of vowels. Looks like Sony and Apple have a new partner in the Evil Empire. Rest in pieces, all of you. Not one penny for the Evil Empire.

Incase some just people don't get it, and where RR is coming from, read these:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=105
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=107

I will never buy ANY game that does this schitt. Ubisoft can go to hell.

Méo · 02-28-10, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Incase some just people don't get it, and where RR is coming from, read these:

Ok, maybe it doesn't work properly, but I don't get what is the comparison with concentration camp and Evil Empire.

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Nope, unfortunatley that is not the case - you own a license to use it as prescribed by the publisher and nothing more. What do think the license agreement is all about?
Hell the only way you can 'own' your software is to write it yourself.

jwilliams · 02-28-10, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Méo

Ok, maybe it doesn't work properly, but I don't get what is the comparison with concentration camp and Evil Empire.

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Oh i beleave its working as intended.....

Locks the connection settings so it cant be modded to use a virtual server. hosted on the users own machine.

Méo · 02-28-10, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

In fact, they don't have any customers, only criminals who deserve to be punished.

In fact???

In fact will you ever go again in any store? or even in a gas station?, cuz they are ''watching'' you with cameras... thus ''treating'' you as a ''criminal'' as well.

Denson · 02-28-10, 10:56 AM

i voted dont know.
Because of DRM but i could live up with this i think.
And because UNLIKE in SH3, in SH5 u cant get to TDC in cunning tower !!!
Talking SH5 >SH3, UBI lied that why i dunno if i buy it.

Einsman · 02-28-10, 10:59 AM

No.

OakGroove · 02-28-10, 11:02 AM

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but I don't get what is the comparison with concentration camp and Evil Empire.

It´s never too late to renounce the dark side, Meo. Or is it?

Méo · 02-28-10, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OakGroove

It´s never too late to renounce the dark side, Meo. Or is it?

Sorry... can't resist... the temptation...

codmander · 02-28-10, 11:24 AM

not right away... I have a feelin sh5 will be 9$ pretty quick we'll see after patchs//mods how she fairs

Ducimus · 02-28-10, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

Ok, maybe it doesn't work properly,

But most likely, its working as designed. Ubisoft can go to hell. I won't buy from them again so long as they're using this draconian BS. There ARE other games publishers.

Greentimbers · 02-28-10, 12:54 PM

S!

After reading this forum for the last couple of days I have changed my mind about SH5. I have requested a refund for my preorder from the UBI store.

Looking at all of the great screen shots etc makes this all that much harder to do.

The more I think about the DRM , the more I am increasingly uncomfortable with this method (used by more and more games it would seem) of protection.

And along with no SH5, I will also be removing ROF from my PC.

I will continue to play both SH3 and 4

I am just no longer willing to accept the intrusion, (and possible data collection), that goes with these type of tethered games.

LiveGoat · 02-28-10, 01:26 PM

The difference is that when I leave the store with the product in my hands they stop watching me. Why? Because the product is now mine.

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Originally Posted by Méo

In fact???

In fact will you ever go again in any store? or even in a gas station?, cuz they are ''watching'' you with cameras... thus ''treating'' you as a ''criminal'' as well.

TH0R · 02-28-10, 01:32 PM

No PC to run it, no normal copy protection, no binoculars on the watch crew, no patches / mods out yet. There is just no reason to buy it at least for now.

I voted 'I don't know'.

Nisgeis · 02-28-10, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

will you ever go again in any store? or even in a gas station?, cuz they are ''watching'' you with cameras... thus ''treating'' you as a ''criminal'' as well.

They are treating you as a potential criminal, the difference is, you can still buy petrol, or food if the cameras stop working as they don't close the shop.

. Oh yeah and you can still use the food and petrol you bought last week too.

609_Avatar · 02-28-10, 01:48 PM

As I've stated elsewhere, no, not with this form of copy protection. I don't care how fabulous the game may be, I just won't support this in any way shape or form. I have too many games as it is that I don't have enough time to play so they are doing me a favor.

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02-28-10, 01:48 PM	#45
609_Avatar Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 3rd Planet From The Sun Posts: 345 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	As I've stated elsewhere, no, not with this form of copy protection. I don't care how fabulous the game may be, I just won't support this in any way shape or form. I have too many games as it is that I don't have enough time to play so they are doing me a favor. __________________ Avatar

02-28-10, 10:56 AM	#35
Denson Seaman Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 39 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	i voted dont know. Because of DRM but i could live up with this i think. And because UNLIKE in SH3, in SH5 u cant get to TDC in cunning tower !!! Talking SH5 >SH3, UBI lied that why i dunno if i buy it.

02-28-10, 10:59 AM	#36
Einsman Engineer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In one place in the Atlantic, say A Coruña, Galiza (Spain) Posts: 214 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 0	No.

02-28-10, 11:24 AM	#39
codmander Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: cape cod mass. Posts: 678 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	not right away... I have a feelin sh5 will be 9$ pretty quick we'll see after patchs//mods how she fairs

02-28-10, 12:54 PM	#41
Greentimbers Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 107 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	S! After reading this forum for the last couple of days I have changed my mind about SH5. I have requested a refund for my preorder from the UBI store. Looking at all of the great screen shots etc makes this all that much harder to do. The more I think about the DRM , the more I am increasingly uncomfortable with this method (used by more and more games it would seem) of protection. And along with no SH5, I will also be removing ROF from my PC. I will continue to play both SH3 and 4 I am just no longer willing to accept the intrusion, (and possible data collection), that goes with these type of tethered games.

02-28-10, 01:32 PM	#43
TH0R XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 420 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	No PC to run it, no normal copy protection, no binoculars on the watch crew, no patches / mods out yet. There is just no reason to buy it at least for now. I voted 'I don't know'.