Deceased Crew Members / How will crew deaths be simulated? (threads merged) - Page 3

Reece · 11-18-09, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Might make the soup a little chunkier and filling.

Mmmmm .... that "other white meat"!!

Lord Justice · 11-20-09, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WEBSTER

i agree with you on this because it is an interesting topic of discussion even though my personal opinion is it shouldnt be in the game.

Thank you, my sentiments exactly, i posted for opinion of choice,and mere discussion for another scenario. it took one guy to mix up the original post, indirectly iam the morbid butcher of my own crew. pepole are to quick to assume without properly,and i mean carefully reading the original WORDING of the stated post. i mentioned not endorsing the comment, and taking the seriousness aside for a moment yet still some jump on the band wagon to mix up and cojur there own recipe of negative thought. well that said iam now the proud captain of an ice box morgue sailing to collect dead from various wolfpacs. ii aim to please lol, well some intresting topics albeit more fror the worst under misinterpetation and failure of correct read. Having said all and finger wagging finished iam curious to the guy who said he never lost any crew or all at same time in sh3, not singler, did you never use aa guns or deck guns ??

kptn_kaiserhof · 11-23-09, 08:15 PM

have you all ever been to a funaural not a joyful time

but if you see it as buriul vs smelly corpse i say buriul

11-23-09, 08:29 PM

If you are having substantial crew casualties, something is wrong...

It should amount to no more than: click, bury, done.

Blood spurting everywhere like something taken from a Monty Python skit, is probably not something we will (or should) ever see in Silent Hunter.

Lord Justice · 11-23-09, 08:52 PM

blood, what blood? me thinks you need to surface and inhale some pure air.

11-23-09, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Para

blood, what blood? me thinks you need to surface and inhale some pure air.

Nah man, we're hanging below the thermal layer with some lava lamps and Jimi Hendrix 8 tracks...

Lord Justice · 11-23-09, 09:53 PM

lol, nice one

Sky999 · 12-07-09, 08:36 AM

I'm wondering If we can see the crew die? Will we see them get locked in a flooded compartment and drown while banging on the door?

Will we see a crew member be killed by an aircraft's machine guns and slump into the sea from off the deck?

Will we see a shell pierce the sub and kill a crew member, and having his corpse stay where he fell instead of just slowly vanishing?

I'm not saying a lot of gore, just allowing us to see them die. It wouldn't mean an adult rating, even PG games have deaths, I mean we are sending hundreds and hundreds of men to their graves, we should be able to see ours die as well.

It'll really be immersion breaking If all of a sudden a guy we are talking to just vanishes into thin air and we are just told 'so and so has died'. It didn't matter as much before but now that we can move about freely around the sub, it would be stupid to go to so much effort to immerse the player and then just have your crew *poof* and vanish.

TDK1044 · 12-07-09, 09:35 AM

The game rating would change if the Devs were to show crew deaths on the sub. This would impact sales. The death of crew members on the decks of some enemy ships can be shown at a distance because of the sub's position in relation to the ships that it is attacking.

I wouldn't expect to see sub crew deaths.

GoldenRivet · 12-07-09, 09:45 AM

I wouldnt expect it either.

However, one thing i didnt like about SH3, when a crewmember is dead, he is just red.

With all parts of the sub accessible it would be a real disappointment if you searched the whole boat and this crew member was just "gone" and no longer anywhere to be seen.

I would say that in a bunk, with a sheet pulled over his head would work.

There he would remain until you surface, order all stop, and physically click the body.

at this time a short burial at sea sequence would take place.

Perhaps render 5 or 6 crew on deck sliding his body overboard before heading back below or someting... nothing fancy.

AT A MINIMUM: you should be able to right click the body on the crew management screen and select "Burial at sea" option. and then the crewman simply disappears.

DarkFish · 12-07-09, 09:47 AM

I think some limited death animations will be included.
They were already in SH4, just watch your crew being machine gunned during an air attack. First they get a small wound, like a bullet in their arm but they can still work. Next they get seriously wounded and can barely stand anymore. If they get even more damage they'll drop dead and will keep lying there.

Sky999 · 12-07-09, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Again, this is just a video game. Some folks want to take this "immersion" thing a little bit too far.

It's not a game, its a 'simulator'. It's purpose is to simulate life on a submarine, letting crew members 'vanish' into thin air to simulate their death is terribly immersion breaking.

ETR3(SS) · 12-07-09, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sky999

It's not a game, its a 'simulator'. It's purpose is to simulate life on a submarine, letting crew members 'vanish' into thin air to simulate their death is terribly immersion breaking.

It's a game, based on the fact that the simulation is and always will be no where near what the real thing is.

Sky999 · 12-07-09, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

It's a game, based on the fact that the simulation is and always will be no where near what the real thing is.

I'm certain that isn't the basis of the game.

PL_Andrev · 12-07-09, 11:08 AM

This is very interesting topic, but SH5 is a submarine simulator whose goal is to sink the enemy - no arranging funerals for killed in action.

11-23-09, 08:29 PM	#34
Sevrin Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	ok... If you are having substantial crew casualties, something is wrong... It should amount to no more than: click, bury, done. Blood spurting everywhere like something taken from a Monty Python skit, is probably not something we will (or should) ever see in Silent Hunter. Last edited by Sevrin; 11-23-09 at 08:40 PM.

12-07-09, 08:36 AM	#38
Sky999 Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 48 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	How will crew deaths be simulated? I'm wondering If we can see the crew die? Will we see them get locked in a flooded compartment and drown while banging on the door? Will we see a crew member be killed by an aircraft's machine guns and slump into the sea from off the deck? Will we see a shell pierce the sub and kill a crew member, and having his corpse stay where he fell instead of just slowly vanishing? I'm not saying a lot of gore, just allowing us to see them die. It wouldn't mean an adult rating, even PG games have deaths, I mean we are sending hundreds and hundreds of men to their graves, we should be able to see ours die as well. It'll really be immersion breaking If all of a sudden a guy we are talking to just vanishes into thin air and we are just told 'so and so has died'. It didn't matter as much before but now that we can move about freely around the sub, it would be stupid to go to so much effort to immerse the player and then just have your crew poof and vanish.

12-07-09, 09:45 AM	#40
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I wouldnt expect it either. However, one thing i didnt like about SH3, when a crewmember is dead, he is just red. With all parts of the sub accessible it would be a real disappointment if you searched the whole boat and this crew member was just "gone" and no longer anywhere to be seen. I would say that in a bunk, with a sheet pulled over his head would work. There he would remain until you surface, order all stop, and physically click the body. at this time a short burial at sea sequence would take place. Perhaps render 5 or 6 crew on deck sliding his body overboard before heading back below or someting... nothing fancy. AT A MINIMUM: you should be able to right click the body on the crew management screen and select "Burial at sea" option. and then the crewman simply disappears. __________________

12-07-09, 09:47 AM	#41
DarkFish Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stinking drunk in Eindhoven, the Netherlands Posts: 1,844 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I think some limited death animations will be included. They were already in SH4, just watch your crew being machine gunned during an air attack. First they get a small wound, like a bullet in their arm but they can still work. Next they get seriously wounded and can barely stand anymore. If they get even more damage they'll drop dead and will keep lying there. __________________

12-07-09, 11:08 AM	#45
PL_Andrev Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 995 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	This is very interesting topic, but SH5 is a submarine simulator whose goal is to sink the enemy - no arranging funerals for killed in action. __________________

11-23-09, 08:15 PM	#33
kptn_kaiserhof XO Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 418 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	have you all ever been to a funaural not a joyful time but if you see it as buriul vs smelly corpse i say buriul

11-23-09, 08:52 PM	#35
Lord Justice Previously 4Para Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Britain Posts: 609 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	blood, what blood? me thinks you need to surface and inhale some pure air.

11-23-09, 09:53 PM	#37
Lord Justice Previously 4Para Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Britain Posts: 609 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	lol, nice one

12-07-09, 09:35 AM	#39
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	The game rating would change if the Devs were to show crew deaths on the sub. This would impact sales. The death of crew members on the decks of some enemy ships can be shown at a distance because of the sub's position in relation to the ships that it is attacking. I wouldn't expect to see sub crew deaths.