Illegals to sue Arizona man !

"Rent"... :rotfl: :rotfl:

That kind of explains a lot actually.

It does doesn't it , thats why I put that little nugget in my first post in this topic ..the laws are slightly different if it is your own property .

Seriously, a citizen has the right to use reasonable amount of force to detain a criminal until law enforcement arrive.

Yes , but define "reasonble" .
That would be a matter for a court to decide on a case by case basis , though I doubt even the most crazy redneck judge could rule that threats of killing an unarmed woman who appeared to pose no threat to the individual would be considered resonable .

[Neptunus Rex]

Oh this is a fun read. But a few items to the folks that think the ranch owner is off his rocker.

1) The defendant is the property owner.

2) The plaintiffs were the trespassers.

3) Trespassing is illegal. A minor crime.

4) Willfully damaging or stealing, though possibly of a minor offense, should elevate the minor trespassing to felony trespassing.

5) Commission of any other crime, (trespassing, theft) while in the commision of another felony possibly raises the bar on all to felony crimes. This other "crime" is entering the USA ILLEGALLY!

6) It is perfectly legal to carry, either concealed or openly, a firearm on YOUR OWN PROPERTY. Doesn't make a difference if it's a hand gun, rifle, or shotgun.

7) Every citizen in the USA can make CITIZENS ARRESTS though they can not physically detain or restrain a person when a citizen knows IN FACT that a person is commiting a crime (in fact commited)(trespassing!).

8) Tough s... Don't want to be confronted, don't trespass.

9) The lawyers representing these people should be disbarred, citizenship stripped, and ejected from the USA.

10) Have a happy!

[Christopher Snow]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Are you being that way for a reason? Go back to worshiping Reagan.

Even us "Liberals" agree that this is an open and shut case for the farmer. He has a right to defend his property and the illegals are obviously trying to make it easier for others to get in.

So the next time you get the urge to use that line. Go pray at the Reagan church and ask for guidance first because Reagan sure as hell was better at dealing with the "liberals" than that.

Do you? And are you "liberals" also so much agreed that it's "an open and shut case for the farmer" that you think he shouldn't also have to mortgage his future to just to defend himself?.

Don't doubt that they'll sue you too. Just for looking at them "sideways."

Of course, only after they sue me....

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In my view, it should NOT be even remotely possible for "an illegal"...an alien...a non-citizen of the US.... to sue a citizen OF the US.

"United we stand, and divided we fall," as they say....

So, in my view, we citizens of the US should throw up a SOLID front against ANY finger of instrusion.

No. I DON'T have to...and definitely SHOULDN'T have to answer to any allegations made (against me) by Hugo Chavez...and nor should any of my fellow citizens similarly have to answer ANY allegations made from abroad.


CS

[Christopher Snow]

Originally Posted by Neptunus Rex

Oh this is a fun read. But a few items to the folks that think the ranch owner is off his rocker.

1) The defendant is the property owner.

2) The plaintiffs were the trespassers.

3) Trespassing is illegal. A minor crime.

4) Willfully damaging or stealing, though possibly of a minor offense, should elevate the minor trespassing to felony trespassing.

5) Commission of any other crime, (trespassing, theft) while in the commision of another felony possibly raises the bar on all to felony crimes. This other "crime" is entering the USA ILLEGALLY!

6) It is perfectly legal to carry, either concealed or openly, a firearm on YOUR OWN PROPERTY. Doesn't make a difference if it's a hand gun, rifle, or shotgun.

7) Every citizen in the USA can make CITIZENS ARRESTS though they can not physically detain or restrain a person when a citizen knows IN FACT that a person is commiting a crime (in fact commited)(trespassing!).

8) Tough s... Don't want to be confronted, don't trespass.

9) The lawyers representing these people should be disbarred, citizenship stripped, and ejected from the USA.

10) Have a happy!

I fully agree with your statement, #9. And know that my last sibling IS a lawyer.

It's the downside cost of becoming a member of "the bar," I say.


CS

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

It does doesn't it , thats why I put that little nugget in my first post in this topic ..the laws are slightly different if it is your own property .

Yes , but define "reasonble" .
That would be a matter for a court to decide on a case by case basis , though I doubt even the most crazy redneck judge could rule that threats of killing an unarmed woman who appeared to pose no threat to the individual would be considered resonable .

Here I will describe reasonable, 16 people (11 being men) vs 1 senior citizen. Unless you are Bruce Lee and on a movie set, odds really suck for the man who stands alone...

[SteamWake]

Texas certanly does take a different viewpoint on such matters.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491964,00.html