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A Very Super Market · 02-15-09, 01:15 AM

12 periods of 20 minutes spaced out doesn't expose you to less time surfaced, but it does give them less time to pick you up on RADAR and fly over than 4 hours straight

02-15-09, 01:40 AM

i can never afford an ixb! 7500 renown is not worth it, so i bought viic, still has the heavy flack, but it appears later in the war then the ixb who i think has it from the start, so its one light flack 1 heavy flack and a deck gun. its good because you can have the deck gun pounding a ship, heavy flack controlled by you, blasting the ship and the light flak looking out for aircraft.

anyone knows what is better, the quad liht flack or the single heavy flack??

also i saw a picture of a uboat whose conning tower had 2 machineguns, 2 light flacks, a heavy flack at the back and a deck gun at the front, sounds like a u cruiser!

A Very Super Market · 02-15-09, 01:54 AM

Neither. Flak is useless on a VII, you can crash dive faster, so you don't to distract the plane like on a IX

RoaldLarsen · 02-15-09, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

12 periods of 20 minutes spaced out doesn't expose you to less time surfaced, but it does give them less time to pick you up on RADAR and fly over than 4 hours straight

It's cold up here in the Northwest Passage. Perhaps the low temperature is slowing down my neurons. Please explain it to me in words of one syllable. Why does them having less time to pick you up on RADAR each time you surface mean they are less likely to detect you over the course of a patrol, if you still stay on the surface the same total amount of time during the patrol?

You seem to be implying that the chance of being detected is not a linear function of time surfaced. Why would that be the case?

Lzs von swe · 02-15-09, 05:23 AM

Enemy planes will, and do, detect you no matter what you do. The air cover is so dense you risk surfacing right under passing planes. I have often seen planes showing up just minutes after I have dived, after my 20 min up-time.
Running at 1 knot, well it is more a question of surviving then trying to reach your patrol grid. In a type VII boat you can go submerged until your CO levels closes in on 50% and have only 20 min. recharging.
As you will be detected by radar sooner or later I prefer to surface in good visibility to give my crew a chance to spot the ones that have no radar. Hoping that the radar warner will detect the ones that have.

RoaldLarsen · 02-15-09, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzs von swe

Enemy planes will, and do, detect you no matter what you do. The air cover is so dense you risk surfacing right under passing planes. I have often seen planes showing up just minutes after I have dived, after my 20 min up-time.
Running at 1 knot, well it is more a question of surviving then trying to reach your patrol grid. In a type VII boat you can go submerged until your CO levels closes in on 50% and have only 20 min. recharging.
As you will be detected by radar sooner or later I prefer to surface in good visibility to give my crew a chance to spot the ones that have no radar. Hoping that the radar warner will detect the ones that have.

Thx for the explanation. I will continue to experiment with different approaches.

02-15-09, 01:15 AM	#31
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	12 periods of 20 minutes spaced out doesn't expose you to less time surfaced, but it does give them less time to pick you up on RADAR and fly over than 4 hours straight __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

02-15-09, 01:54 AM	#33
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Neither. Flak is useless on a VII, you can crash dive faster, so you don't to distract the plane like on a IX __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

02-15-09, 05:23 AM	#35
Lzs von swe Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norrkoping, Sweden Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Enemy planes will, and do, detect you no matter what you do. The air cover is so dense you risk surfacing right under passing planes. I have often seen planes showing up just minutes after I have dived, after my 20 min up-time. Running at 1 knot, well it is more a question of surviving then trying to reach your patrol grid. In a type VII boat you can go submerged until your CO levels closes in on 50% and have only 20 min. recharging. As you will be detected by radar sooner or later I prefer to surface in good visibility to give my crew a chance to spot the ones that have no radar. Hoping that the radar warner will detect the ones that have. __________________

02-15-09, 01:40 AM	#32
magicsub2 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	i can never afford an ixb! 7500 renown is not worth it, so i bought viic, still has the heavy flack, but it appears later in the war then the ixb who i think has it from the start, so its one light flack 1 heavy flack and a deck gun. its good because you can have the deck gun pounding a ship, heavy flack controlled by you, blasting the ship and the light flak looking out for aircraft. anyone knows what is better, the quad liht flack or the single heavy flack?? also i saw a picture of a uboat whose conning tower had 2 machineguns, 2 light flacks, a heavy flack at the back and a deck gun at the front, sounds like a u cruiser!