CHESS: Letum vs Skybird

[Skybird]

yours 12 Qg5xg7

such impertinence needs to be punished - if you think I did not see that, sorry, you were wrong


12... Ke8-e7

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

edit2: so the Reti opening is just any opening with the KN? Why does that need a name?!

KN? what's that?

Reti is an opening that sees White moving Nf3 as an opening, and that does not later traverse into a different system like queens Indian, which I choosed because as a Reti player with White myself I know how sharp and dangerous it can become. However, Queens Indian like I choosed by b6 (instead b5) sees Black having the plan to block the centre for white by controlling and moving pawns to d5 and e4 and defending them with the bishop on b7, also countering the White bishop on g2 - the diagonal the white bishop tries to support by moving to g2 is one of the keys in this variation. when you exchanged that bishop voluntarily, you directly played into the hands of Black's intention, and also weakened the king'S position. I just do not know Queens Indian good enough to take more longtermed advantage from that strategic error, it never was part of my repertoire 20 years ago. It is said to be a solid defense, but dooming Black to remain passive - something that I have come to see now. While I think I stand better than you, i also never saw any real chance to strike at you without needing to gamble that you would not see the threat I raise. But I consider plans that depend on the opponent cooperating to be weak plans, and thus played more solid. The passivity and lacking offensive chances seem to be the price for that.

[Letum]

Nc3-d5 Check

KN = Knig's knight. The only notation I ever used went:


As seen from white:
QR8,QN8,QB8,Q8,K8,KB8,KN8,KR8
QR7,QN7,QB7,Q7,K7,KB7,KN7,KR7
QR6,QN6,QB6,Q6,K6,KB6,KN6,KR6
QR5,QN5,QB5,Q5,K5,KB5,KN5,KR5
QR4,QN4,QB4,Q4,K4,KB4,KN4,KR4
QR3,QN3,QB3,Q3,K3,KB3,KN3,KR3
QR2,QN2,QB2,Q2,K2,KB2,KN2,KR2
QR1,QN1,QB1,Q1,K1,KB1,KN1,KR1

As seen from black:
KR8,KN8,KB8,K8,Q8,QB8,QN8,QR8
KR7,KN7,KB7,K7,Q7,QB7,QN7,QR7
KR6,KN6,KB6,K6,Q6,QB6,QN6,QR6
KR5,KN5,KB5,K5,Q5,QB5,QN5,QR5
KR4,KN4,KB4,K4,Q4,QB4,QN4,QR4
KR3,KN3,KB3,K3,Q3,QB3,QN3,QR3
KR2,KN2,KB2,K2,Q2,QB2,QN2,QR2
KR1,KN1,KB1,K1,Q1,QB1,QN1,QR1


The advantage being that this notation can be used from both sides of the board and still work.
Perhaps it is old fashioned now or perhaps just English and not used elsewhere. I don't know.

Reti is an opening that sees White moving Nf3 as an opening, and that does not later traverse into a different system like queens Indian, which I choosed because as a Reti player with White myself I know how sharp and dangerous it can become. However, Queens Indian like I choosed by b6 (instead b5) sees Black having the plan to block the centre for white by controlling and moving pawns to d5 and e4 and defending them with the bishop on b7, also countering the White bishop on g2 - the diagonal the white bishop tries to support by moving to g2 is one of the keys in this variation. when you exchanged that bishop voluntarily, you directly played into the hands of Black's intention, and also weakened the king'S position. I just do not know Queens Indian good enough to take more longtermed advantage from that strategic error, it never was part of my repertoire 20 years ago. It is said to be a solid defense, but dooming Black to remain passive - something that I have come to see now. While I think I stand better than you, i also never saw any real chance to strike at you without needing to gamble that you would not see the threat I raise. But I consider plans that depend on the opponent cooperating to be weak plans, and thus played more solid. The passivity and lacking offensive chances seem to be the price for that.

haha...I don't like chess nearly enough to read or try to understand that.
Its enough to make me want to go back to snakes and ladders.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

Nc3-d5 Check

Bad knight.

13... Nf6xd5 smack!

Ah, that makes me wishing that Conan were here. He knew so very well what is best in life.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

Nc3-d5 Check

KN = Knig's knight. The only notation I ever used went:

The advantage being that this notation can be used from both sides of the board and still work.

What advantage is there? All notation works from both sides of the board.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Skybird

What advantage is there? All notation works from both sides of the board.

With your notation white's second line is x2 and black's second line is x7.
With the notation I was taught white's second line is x2 and black's second line is
also x2.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

With your notation white's second line is x2 and black's second line is x7.
With the notation I was taught white's second line is x2 and black's second line is
also x2.

So...?

[Letum]

Bc1xh6 / QB1xKN6 (or from your point of view QB8xKN2)

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Skybird

So...?

It makes more sense to call the 2nd line, the 2nd line, rather than the 7th.

*edit* to put it more clearly:

It makes more sense to call Black's second line, blacks 2nd line, rather than White's 8th line.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

Bc1xh6 / QB1xKN6 (or from your point of view QB8xKN2)

14... Ra8-g8

Are you missing something important elsewhere, or why are you suddenly trying to commit Harakiri? Until 12.Qg5 i really felt helpless a bit. Now you brought me into a superior position. It's so extreme a sudden change in your play, I don't understand that.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

It makes more sense to call the 2nd line, the 2nd line, rather than the 7th.

*edit* to put it more clearly:

It makes more sense to call Black's second line, blacks 2nd line, rather than White's 8th line.

Can't follow your logic there. And the international chess scene obviously also does not. I knew that this old notation system existed, and had a tradition in the anglosaxon world, but I never saw it as a loss that precise coordinate-depending notation is dominating.

However.

[Letum]

Remember, this is only the second real game I have played since I have left
secondary school at the age of 16. Thats some 6 or so years ago now.

I am very much a novice and out of practice.

Heres my resignation.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

Remember, this is only the second real game I have played since I have left
secondary school at the age of 16. Thats some 6 or so years ago now.

I am very much a novice and out of practice.

Heres my resignation.

Couldn't remember that since I did not know it.

It was an uncomfortable match for me until after your 12. move, then I just needed to react to the errors you made. I assume you wanted to conduct a flying attack and did not calculate it precisely!?


You want a rematch or want to do an analysis?

[Letum]

Ah, I thought you did.


If you post a screen of the situation after black's 11th move, how about we carry on from there?

[Skybird]

White to move.