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Old 08-25-08, 05:24 PM   #31
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This is interesting light of the facts that some of the biggest WWI ace's used the deck gun almost exclusively for most of their kills.

I cant imagine that ships were easier to sink back then, or the subs any better gun platforms.
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Old 08-25-08, 05:49 PM   #32
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This is interesting light of the facts that some of the biggest WWI ace's used the deck gun almost exclusively for most of their kills.

I cant imagine that ships were easier to sink back then, or the subs any better gun platforms.
i would think if that were the case it was because ww1 merchant ships were generally unarmed and not as well built as during ww2 when they had better stronger steel.

i would imagine back then a few shells would split the seems open and unzip those rivets without too much effort.
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This is interesting light of the facts that some of the biggest WWI ace's used the deck gun almost exclusively for most of their kills.

I cant imagine that ships were easier to sink back then, or the subs any better gun platforms.
i would think if that were the case it was because ww1 merchant ships were generally unarmed and not as well built as during ww2 when they had better stronger steel.

i would imagine back then a few shells would split the seems open and unzip those rivets without too much effort.
And they generally weren't too concerned about planes :hmm:.
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Old 08-25-08, 08:55 PM   #34
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This is interesting light of the facts that some of the biggest WWI ace's used the deck gun almost exclusively for most of their kills.

I cant imagine that ships were easier to sink back then, or the subs any better gun platforms.
i would think if that were the case it was because ww1 merchant ships were generally unarmed and not as well built as during ww2 when they had better stronger steel.

i would imagine back then a few shells would split the seems open and unzip those rivets without too much effort.
It's also only partly true. They would stop the ship, allow the crew to depart in lifeboats, and then sink the ship by opening the sea cocks, laying scuttling charges and then using a few rounds from the deck gun. The British development of the Q-ship made that much more dangerous, and by the end of the war most of them were using torpedoes.

So it's a lot easier to sink a ship with the gun when it's already open to the sea, and when there is no crew on board to make repairs and fight fires.

I'm also delighted to report that www.uboat.net 's article on Lothar von Arauld de la Perriere has been updated to reflect the fact that his use of only four torpedoes was not throughout his entire career, but only during one patrol. Still an amazing accomplishment, but not quite the myth it seems to have become.
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Old 08-26-08, 01:50 AM   #35
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Just found another one for you all. It's a liberty ship and was registered at 7176 tons, sure, but after a torpedo destroyed her stern it still took 99 rounds from the deck gun to finish her off.
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/3001.html
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Old 08-26-08, 07:01 AM   #36
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More on rates of fire:
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/739.html

Twenty-eight rounds in sixteen minutes is an average of 1.75 rounds per minute, or one every 34 seconds.

I also have to wonder who the mystery ship was who evaded four torpedoes and got away.
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AARRRGGGGG !!!!!!!!
BILGEWATER I SAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my 2 highest paid and most decorated men are my deck gun crew.
last night in a 4/2 porpoise boat we took out an entire convoy over a 2 day long battle.
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2 lg freighters
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I #@$* swear and rely on my deckgun. Keep in mind I carry few torps on this ond but faithful friend.

So when you talk about my deck gun,,,,,, your messing with me !!!!!!
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Old 08-26-08, 11:22 AM   #38
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AARRRGGGGG !!!!!!!!
BILGEWATER I SAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my 2 highest paid and most decorated men are my deck gun crew.
last night in a 4/2 porpoise boat we took out an entire convoy over a 2 day long battle.
4 DDs
2 lg tanker
2 lg freighters
3 med freighters
med tanker
sm tanker

I #@$* swear and rely on my deckgun. Keep in mind I carry few torps on this ond but faithful friend.

So when you talk about my deck gun,,,,,, your messing with me !!!!!!
Install RFB and you will be singing a different tune I assure you.

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I kinda wish we had a mod that'd let you chase gun crews away from their mount with your AA guns...
Hell they dont even abandon their guns as the ship is sinking and listing at 45 degrees.
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Old 08-26-08, 01:41 PM   #39
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I #@$* swear and rely on my deckgun. Keep in mind I carry few torps on this ond but faithful friend.

So when you talk about my deck gun,,,,,, your messing with me !!!!!!
I swear I would never dream of criticizing your deck gun. Neither its size nor its performance. What you do with your deck gun is your business and nobody else's. I may disagree with your deck gun, but I'll defend to the death your right to shoot it.
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No you don't get in a Fleet Boat! Why wait do it now!

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Install RFB and you will be singing a different tune I assure you.
Couldn't agree more. Recently came across a merchant with a single AA gun I was in range of an quickly watched my haul damage jump to 40%...

Although, the crew managed to survive despite "grievous injuries"
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Old 08-26-08, 08:59 PM   #42
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Yep, just got another taste tonight. Night attack in the fog. Very close to the merchant. So close he, well, spotted me in the murk OK, 700 yards is darn close. I could not see if he had deck weapons. I did not have to! Ratta-tat-tat . Raked my watch crew, busted up my scope, antenna and some minor damage to the con. I had to crash dive. After the merchant thought the coast was clear, he correct to his previous course. I enrounded the bugger and showed him what for. However, my watch crew is not feeling to good. Kind of slumped on the sail. I had my corpman report to the watch and bandage them up. I think they will pull through. They're looking at my funny though.

The new RFB sub damage is very very good. It brings a new aspect to the game.
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I find the deck gun is so unpowerful in RFB that they are only good for storing stuff in. Cant even take down a fishing boat with it.
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Old 08-26-08, 09:42 PM   #44
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I use 1.5 (addon) and TriggerMaru Overhauled.
I normaly avoid the Deckgun and the AA Guns.A few hits and my crew and me swim with the fishies.....permanently XD
Sometimes if you see with the periscope that the enemys ship have no guns then you can risk a try if your short on torpedoes.
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Old 08-28-08, 05:30 PM   #45
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Apparently I'm the only one that uses it to blast the bridge / command deck to stop a fleeing bugger from maneuvering. He already "evaded" (more likely duds) my first spread, and now he's constantly turning. So I blast the captain and his first mate, and turn that ship into easy prey for my next shot.

That, and finishing of cripples not worth another torp.
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