Euro 2008 - Page 3

Dan D · 06-14-08, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Damn the Germans played an ugly game against the Croatians, who played very well indeed. But damnit, so many stupid mistakes were made by the germans, it looked as if they had never played football together. Hopefully they will get their act together because my money is on them and I'v allways supported Germany in the euro cup.

Yes very true, but don't worry mate! I think your money bet still proves that you are a resaonable fiscally conservative. But if you lose your money, I have some original autographs singed by the former worldclass player Marcel Raducanu from Romania and I could send you one as a consulation. You could try to sell it on e-bay. How is that?

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The German defeat against Croatia had to happen for a perfect dramaturgy. Because now, in the final match of the group round Austria has the chance to make it to the quarter finals by throwing Germany out of the tournament which is about the worst case scenario for a German football supporter.
My tip: Austria 0 - Germany 4.

I would like to see Holland:Germany in the final :-)

antikristuseke · 06-14-08, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

Damn the Germans played an ugly game against the Croatians, who played very well indeed. But damnit, so many stupid mistakes were made by the germans, it looked as if they had never played football together. Hopefully they will get their act together because my money is on them and I'v allways supported Germany in the euro cup.

Yes very true, but don't worry mate! I think your money bet still proves that you are a resaonable fiscally conservative. But if you lose your money, I have some original autographs singed by the former worldclass player Marcel Raducanu from Romania and I could send you one as a consulation. You could try to sell it on e-bay. How is that?

Thanks for the offer, but hold on to yous autograph. Gambling wouldnt be fun if I would only win.

Besides, had a great weekend with playing pool so I have won more thasn my share for this summer allready

Red Heat · 06-14-08, 01:03 PM

A fair result for the game Sweden vs Spain it was 1-1 because the Sweden play against Spain team and the judge all so, with this last one with a very very poor performance in is actions giving all the action to the Spanish team and all aways marking against Sweden only.

A tip to the Spanish team...they are in the wrong business they must go to Hollywood because they are best as ACTORS than Foothball players, all aways in the floor for everything and nothing...wich is sad.
What a ugly show of Foothball...

P.S. I hope for the next game Sweden wake up finaly from the this deep sleep because i personaly belive they are able to do more than this!

GlobalExplorer · 06-14-08, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan D

The German defeat against Croatia had to happen for a perfect dramaturgy. Because now, in the final match of the group round Austria has the chance to make it to the quarter finals by throwing Germany out of the tournament which is about the worst case scenario for a German football supporter.
My tip: Austria 0 - Germany 4

Croatia did everything right, and it was a deserved victory. But I didnt see the Germans worse than against Poland, they were mediocre in both. In the media everyone is talking about the players not moving as much as against Poland, when in fact they were moving more (as can be seen by the statistics). And because of the counter offense in the second half they did not embarass themselves.

I find it amusing that the Austrians, who have shown morale, but no skill whatsoever, are now talking about throwing out Germany .. :rotfl:

My bet is also on a clear win against Austria but I don't see a lot of chances for germany winning the cup.

Red Heat · 06-15-08, 03:50 PM

Well Portugal vs Swiss have as result 0-2 in my opinion the star of this game as the judge(from Austria).
The first goal of Portugal it was a valid one in my opinion, but the judge dont see that away, the first goal of the Swiss it was "out of game" (it was a invalid one) about the panalty against Portugal if its a case to mark a panalty against us, there is all so a panalty against the Swiss, with Nani...wich the judge one more time "didnt see" sad. (looks like he wants to show all the cards as possible to Portugal, witch he only stop when the Swiss start to win).
I dont mind my team lose with a superior team, or tactical superior but what i cant suport its the injustice and robery...

Red Heat · 06-15-08, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Wow, just wow ! The Turks showed a great spirit during this match, the 3rd goal by Nihat is a gem, and the last minutes added the additionnal drama for such a match, great show

Yes the Turks show a very good performance...may they are able to make more surprises in this EURO 2008!

Fincuan · 06-15-08, 03:55 PM

WOW what a match(I guess you know which one I mean).

Earlier I was talking bull**** about Germany vs. Croatia btw. Croatia has already secured the first spot in their group regardless of how they or the Germans play the final round.

ps. Crying about refs

Red Heat · 06-15-08, 04:11 PM

A few minutes a go i was watching Scolari comments...about the game Portugal vs Swiss and later i so the resume of the game Rep. Che vs Turkey...and what a recovery from the Turks team...outstanding goals!

They are ON for the next stage too!

Skybird · 06-16-08, 06:06 PM

So Germany beats Austria by a cruise-missile hammer-goal by Ballack from freekick, and so the match had the expected dose of poison and aggression, like matches between Austria and Germany always have, and Germany made it into the next round. But I must really say that a convincing team looks different and plays better. I rate the chances for Portugal to kill germany as 66:33 if Germany does not manage to masisvely imporve and show some of the stregnth we have seen from it in the past two years. So far, they are playing below what they have shown in past two years to be capable of. and I can only wonder why that is so. Many mistakes, lacking precision, a weak defense, and lacking skill in positional play, not enough drive towards the opponent's goal. german team must improve in almost every aspect.

there is a chance that the Germans survive the match against Portugal, but the better chances are with their opponent.

The referee did a lousy job and allowed far too many yellow-card fouls by the Austrians going by without reacting, some of them were threatening the health of the tackled players. Worse referee performace I have seen so far. The decision to send the trainers out also is not a demosntration of comopetence. both trainers wanted to coach their teams from inside the coaching zone, ans that is perfectly allowed by the rules. why the fourth FIFA man saw a reason to intervene with that is beyond me. and both trainers did not understand it as well, inf act they showed that thy had no problem with each other when shaking hands before leaving the green. Really, the referees made highly questionable things this evening.

antikristuseke · 06-16-08, 06:09 PM

One of the austrians got off clean with a damned red card worthy offence, ubt oh well. At least Germanys game has improved to a nearly acceptable level, guess we will have to wait ant see now.
Going to keep this short because its 2am, am a bit tipsy because it was my brothers graduation party and need to be at work in 5 hours.

Dan D · 06-16-08, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

has improved to a nearly acceptable level

Are you sure?

We will see in the next match against Portugal.
Portugal has a fantastic team with a lot of experienced players, in defence, midfield and offence.
I won’t complain, if the German team loses that match. The German team will have to improve a lot to make it to the next round.
But still, I think the Dutch team has set the benchmark for this tournament with their stunning performances so far and it would be an honour and privilege to play against this outstanding team. To get a chance to play against the Dutch team, the German team will have to make it to the final.
That has to be the goal.

06-17-08, 03:53 AM

I think Germany is playing ok now. From what I remember they are rarely very good in the opening rounds but vastly improve in the knock-out phase often ending up in the final.

Fincuan · 06-17-08, 06:42 AM

UEFA is now considering additional punishment for both coaches, so they must have said something really bad to the refs. Too bad we can only see what happens and not hear. I can easily imagine this starting when the fourth ref orders one or both of them to sit down for a while, and then things start to escalate. The rule is that one member from each team's support staff is allowed to give advice while briefly standing inside the technical area, but most of the time they should be sitting down. They are not allowed to stand there continuosly, something which many viewers don't seem to know.

Red Heat · 06-17-08, 07:12 AM

Well it looks like it will be Portugal vs Germany, and i hope to see a great foothball game, with good fairplay, and the most important of all a HIGHT LEVEL JUDGES TEAM, because what happen with Portugal - Swiss and Sweden - Spain cant happen ever AGAIN, NO AT THIS LEVEL!

P.S. To the Germans suporters...what the Best Team Wins!

P.S.1 Oh no...my avatar looks that guy from Village People...i want another ONE! ROFL!!!

Fincuan · 06-17-08, 08:29 AM

I just reviewed the goals in Switzerland - Portugal, and the first one was definitely legitimate, nothing wrong with it at all. The second one, well, looks like there was quite a strong breeze going on given how easily the Swiss guy went down

Other than that I think the refs did quite well.

You can view the goals here: http://tisport.blogspot.com/2008/06/...2-0-video.html

Here's a match I'd like to see(Not work or kids safe): http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/video/...-football.html

06-14-08, 01:03 PM	#33
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	A fair result for the game Sweden vs Spain it was 1-1 because the Sweden play against Spain team and the judge all so, with this last one with a very very poor performance in is actions giving all the action to the Spanish team and all aways marking against Sweden only. A tip to the Spanish team...they are in the wrong business they must go to Hollywood because they are best as ACTORS than Foothball players, all aways in the floor for everything and nothing...wich is sad. What a ugly show of Foothball... P.S. I hope for the next game Sweden wake up finaly from the this deep sleep because i personaly belive they are able to do more than this! __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

06-15-08, 03:50 PM	#35
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Well Portugal vs Swiss have as result 0-2 in my opinion the star of this game as the judge(from Austria). The first goal of Portugal it was a valid one in my opinion, but the judge dont see that away, the first goal of the Swiss it was "out of game" (it was a invalid one) about the panalty against Portugal if its a case to mark a panalty against us, there is all so a panalty against the Swiss, with Nani...wich the judge one more time "didnt see" sad. (looks like he wants to show all the cards as possible to Portugal, witch he only stop when the Swiss start to win). I dont mind my team lose with a superior team, or tactical superior but what i cant suport its the injustice and robery... __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato Last edited by Red Heat; 06-15-08 at 04:24 PM.

06-15-08, 04:11 PM	#38
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	A few minutes a go i was watching Scolari comments...about the game Portugal vs Swiss and later i so the resume of the game Rep. Che vs Turkey...and what a recovery from the Turks team...outstanding goals! They are ON for the next stage too! __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

06-16-08, 06:06 PM	#39
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,647 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	So Germany beats Austria by a cruise-missile hammer-goal by Ballack from freekick, and so the match had the expected dose of poison and aggression, like matches between Austria and Germany always have, and Germany made it into the next round. But I must really say that a convincing team looks different and plays better. I rate the chances for Portugal to kill germany as 66:33 if Germany does not manage to masisvely imporve and show some of the stregnth we have seen from it in the past two years. So far, they are playing below what they have shown in past two years to be capable of. and I can only wonder why that is so. Many mistakes, lacking precision, a weak defense, and lacking skill in positional play, not enough drive towards the opponent's goal. german team must improve in almost every aspect. there is a chance that the Germans survive the match against Portugal, but the better chances are with their opponent. The referee did a lousy job and allowed far too many yellow-card fouls by the Austrians going by without reacting, some of them were threatening the health of the tackled players. Worse referee performace I have seen so far. The decision to send the trainers out also is not a demosntration of comopetence. both trainers wanted to coach their teams from inside the coaching zone, ans that is perfectly allowed by the rules. why the fourth FIFA man saw a reason to intervene with that is beyond me. and both trainers did not understand it as well, inf act they showed that thy had no problem with each other when shaking hands before leaving the green. Really, the referees made highly questionable things this evening. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-17-08, 06:42 AM	#43
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	UEFA is now considering additional punishment for both coaches, so they must have said something really bad to the refs. Too bad we can only see what happens and not hear. I can easily imagine this starting when the fourth ref orders one or both of them to sit down for a while, and then things start to escalate. The rule is that one member from each team's support staff is allowed to give advice while briefly standing inside the technical area, but most of the time they should be sitting down. They are not allowed to stand there continuosly, something which many viewers don't seem to know. Last edited by Fincuan; 06-17-08 at 06:53 AM.

06-15-08, 03:55 PM	#37
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	WOW what a match(I guess you know which one I mean). Earlier I was talking bull**** about Germany vs. Croatia btw. Croatia has already secured the first spot in their group regardless of how they or the Germans play the final round. ps. Crying about refs

06-16-08, 06:09 PM	#40
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	One of the austrians got off clean with a damned red card worthy offence, ubt oh well. At least Germanys game has improved to a nearly acceptable level, guess we will have to wait ant see now. Going to keep this short because its 2am, am a bit tipsy because it was my brothers graduation party and need to be at work in 5 hours.

06-17-08, 03:53 AM	#42
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I think Germany is playing ok now. From what I remember they are rarely very good in the opening rounds but vastly improve in the knock-out phase often ending up in the final.

06-17-08, 07:12 AM	#44
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Well it looks like it will be Portugal vs Germany, and i hope to see a great foothball game, with good fairplay, and the most important of all a HIGHT LEVEL JUDGES TEAM, because what happen with Portugal - Swiss and Sweden - Spain cant happen ever AGAIN, NO AT THIS LEVEL! P.S. To the Germans suporters...what the Best Team Wins! P.S.1 Oh no...my avatar looks that guy from Village People...i want another ONE! ROFL!!! __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

06-17-08, 08:29 AM	#45
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I just reviewed the goals in Switzerland - Portugal, and the first one was definitely legitimate, nothing wrong with it at all. The second one, well, looks like there was quite a strong breeze going on given how easily the Swiss guy went down Other than that I think the refs did quite well. You can view the goals here: http://tisport.blogspot.com/2008/06/...2-0-video.html Here's a match I'd like to see(Not work or kids safe): http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/video/...-football.html