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Old 05-01-08, 07:49 AM   #31
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I wasn't being serious, but i guess since you mention it your experience doesn't really prove the theory either way. Obviously if every kid that watched violent cartoons went out and attempted to act them out in RL folks wouldn't be having this debate.
Your question was direct, and seemed serious enough. On the other hand, wasn't my original statement just a little bit over the top?

And my point seems to have been exactly the same: that what we watch and what we play does NOT shape us nearly as much as what we are taught by those whose job it is to raise us.
I don't use those stupid smileys enough.

Re your original statement, i suppose but the point is certainly valid. I'm just not sure how any single individuals experience can prove or disprove the theory. Personally i suspect the influence of such games is a lot more subtle that people think.
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Old 05-01-08, 08:05 AM   #32
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I think it started with dear Hillary Clinton when she said a whole villiage needs to raise a child. Crack-pot thought really.
It's not a Hillary original but it is a true statement. It's a simple way of saying society also shapes a child. I don't see a thing wrong with that statement. A childs parents should be a major factor but it sure isn't "the" factor.
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Old 05-01-08, 07:23 PM   #33
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Chipper....:hmm:
Edinburgh...:hmm:

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Shoes, in fact - I was on my way back from my then job...working on the switchboard at L&B Police HQ, Fettes, and I had my support staff jumper and ID tag on at the time!

I wonder who came up with that great idea - "let's make our staff look like coppers, but without any of the warry gear, ASPs, spray, or powers of arrest".
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Old 05-02-08, 05:03 AM   #34
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I think that you all need to forget the game that was involved and concentrate on the town that this happened in

Croydon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon

One of the holes in the Uk that spawned Chavs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

Not a nice place to visit and I pity anyone who has to live there.

My initial reaction when I saw the article was "that's Croydon for you" In all honesty it didn't even occur to me that it might be game related lol
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Old 05-02-08, 06:37 AM   #35
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I think that you all need to forget the game that was involved and concentrate on the town that this happened in

Croydon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon

One of the holes in the Uk that spawned Chavs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

Not a nice place to visit and I pity anyone who has to live there.

My initial reaction when I saw the article was "that's Croydon for you" In all honesty it didn't even occur to me that it might be game related lol

Aye, folks in Croydon would stab you for a Solero
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Old 05-02-08, 12:07 PM   #36
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Because it is easyer to shift blame than to raise your child.
I agree too. Let's face it...violence permiates American media in all its forms. To single out video games, and blame them for violent acts, is simply ignorance. Like many of you, I grew up watching the coyote try to kill the roadrunner, SWAT, A-Team, movies like Wild at Heart, Red Dawn...there's too many examples to name. The crux is that 99.9% of us can differentiate between real and fantasy, right vs. wrong. If anything, video games provide an opportunity to vent our frustrations or anger. They allow us to "experience" things we would never do in real life, and I will always be grateful for that. And on that note, I'm off to the nearest Gamestop to pick up my very own copy of GTA IV...and I'm going to enjoy every minute of it!

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Old 05-02-08, 02:25 PM   #37
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I think that you all need to forget the game that was involved and concentrate on the town that this happened in

Croydon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon

One of the holes in the Uk that spawned Chavs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

Not a nice place to visit and I pity anyone who has to live there.

My initial reaction when I saw the article was "that's Croydon for you" In all honesty it didn't even occur to me that it might be game related lol

Aye, folks in Croydon would stab you for a Solero
As a United fan who's booked his Moscow trip I've had this cloud of worry about travelling to Russia what with all these stories of pickpockets, muggings at knife point, and general threats to my person ... thankfully, the Scousers are out now so I don't have to worry about that anymore!!!
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Old 05-02-08, 02:32 PM   #38
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Most of the scares about Russia are overrated, but then again I travel with metalheads, bikers or infantry guys. Russia is a good place to pick up souvenire knives though.
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I think that you all need to forget the game that was involved and concentrate on the town that this happened in

Croydon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydon

One of the holes in the Uk that spawned Chavs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

Not a nice place to visit and I pity anyone who has to live there.

My initial reaction when I saw the article was "that's Croydon for you" In all honesty it didn't even occur to me that it might be game related lol

Aye, folks in Croydon would stab you for a Solero
As a United fan who's booked his Moscow trip I've had this cloud of worry about travelling to Russia what with all these stories of pickpockets, muggings at knife point, and general threats to my person ... thankfully, the Scousers are out now so I don't have to worry about that anymore!!!
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Old 05-02-08, 03:08 PM   #40
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I honestly believe that playing a "violent" video game does not have any effect on your behavior.

on the other hand;

Whenever I watch UFC I just feel like having a beat down. Infact, my buddies and I were watching UFC the other day, and it inspired us to go buy boxing gloves and have a tournament. It was the most fun I'd had in a while (I got 3rd.)
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As a United fan who's booked his Moscow trip I've had this cloud of worry about travelling to Russia what with all these stories of pickpockets, muggings at knife point, and general threats to my person ... thankfully, the Scousers are out now so I don't have to worry about that anymore!!!
Oh, come now, don't be so ridiculous, you don't have to be worried about Scousers stabbing you...they're too busy nicking cars.
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As a United fan who's booked his Moscow trip I've had this cloud of worry about travelling to Russia what with all these stories of pickpockets, muggings at knife point, and general threats to my person ... thankfully, the Scousers are out now so I don't have to worry about that anymore!!!
Oh, come now, don't be so ridiculous, you don't have to be worried about Scousers stabbing you...they're too busy nicking cars.
A Scouser inadvertently goes into a gay bar for a beer. He sits at the bar supping his pint when one gay gentleman decides to chance his luck. He approaches the Scouser and whispers something into his ear, whereupon the Liverpudlian turns around in complete disgust and horror and proceeds to punch the living f*ck out of the homosexual, fist after fist punching him out the door, kicking him across the pub car park, relentlessly punching and kicking until the victim lay comatose. The Scouser then dusted himself down and calmly returned to his pint at the bar, whilst the horrified staff and clientelle stood silent and motionless.

Eventually, the barman plucks up the courage to ask what had happened:

Barman: "Bloody hell mate. What on earth did he whisper to you?"

Scouser: "Dunno, but it was something about a 'job'."

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A scouser walked into the local job centre, marched straight up to the counter and said "Hi, I'm looking for a job".
The man behind the counter replied "Your timing is amazing. We've just got a listing from a very wealthy man who wants a chauffeur/bodyguard for his nymphomaniac twin daughters. You'll have to drive around in a big black Mercedes, uniform provided. Because of the long hours of this job, meals will also be provided and you will also be required to escort the young ladies on their overseas holidays. The salary package is £200,000 a year".

The scouser said "You're bull****ting me!"

The man behind the counter said "Well you bloody started it!"

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