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Old 05-24-08, 05:12 AM   #1
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Hi Wclear, congrats on the sticky , now run away! because of the users are coming your way and they have alot of questions to be answered!
Hi,my friend.

I just travel back today. I immediately answer your question.
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Old 05-24-08, 05:24 AM   #2
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First of all, let me make one thing absolutely clear: this mod ROCKS!!! Hats off to you for making SH4 ultra realistic experience. The ocean looks so real that I have to stop my head from banging into the monitor because I want to jump in....

There is one thing I would change though and I would like to know how other simmers feel about it: I think that in order to make the enviroment ultra-realistic you have overkilled it a little bit in making the night a little too dark. I have seen ocean at night multiple times and, honestly, it will never get so pitch black. Not even on moonless nights. It hinders the gameplay.... Considering that most of the submarine attacks in WW2 took place at night and the real commanders had other things to rely on, like extra three pair of eyes on the watch, they could smell exhaust fuel of the ships etc. attacking ships gets extremely frustrating with your mod at night.

Don't take me wrong. In no way I intend to slam your mod, you have done a hell of a job but sometimes it is a litlle bit better to ease up on the realistic part for the sake of a gameplay....

What do you think?
To become more light water at night is very easy, but it is very realistic.

No moon night, the sea should be like asphalt, which is I have seen.

If there are many people like the water in the evening more light - when not moon. I can create a small patch for you.:hmm:
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E4.6 Adjust the color of the sunrise clouds wrong.Adjust the brightness of the sea at night.

http://files.filefront.com/Enviromen.../fileinfo.html

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Old 08-29-08, 10:26 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by conus00
First of all, let me make one thing absolutely clear: this mod ROCKS!!! Hats off to you for making SH4 ultra realistic experience. The ocean looks so real that I have to stop my head from banging into the monitor because I want to jump in....

There is one thing I would change though and I would like to know how other simmers feel about it: I think that in order to make the enviroment ultra-realistic you have overkilled it a little bit in making the night a little too dark. I have seen ocean at night multiple times and, honestly, it will never get so pitch black. Not even on moonless nights. It hinders the gameplay.... Considering that most of the submarine attacks in WW2 took place at night and the real commanders had other things to rely on, like extra three pair of eyes on the watch, they could smell exhaust fuel of the ships etc. attacking ships gets extremely frustrating with your mod at night.

Don't take me wrong. In no way I intend to slam your mod, you have done a hell of a job but sometimes it is a litlle bit better to ease up on the realistic part for the sake of a gameplay....

What do you think?
To become more light water at night is very easy, but it is very realistic.

No moon night, the sea should be like asphalt, which is I have seen.

If there are many people like the water in the evening more light - when not moon. I can create a small patch for you.:hmm:
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E4.6 Adjust the color of the sunrise clouds wrong.Adjust the brightness of the sea at night.

http://files.filefront.com/Enviromen.../fileinfo.html

Yes please W_Clear , we want a patch to evening more light thank you very much
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Old 08-30-08, 08:01 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by conus00
First of all, let me make one thing absolutely clear: this mod ROCKS!!! Hats off to you for making SH4 ultra realistic experience. The ocean looks so real that I have to stop my head from banging into the monitor because I want to jump in....

There is one thing I would change though and I would like to know how other simmers feel about it: I think that in order to make the enviroment ultra-realistic you have overkilled it a little bit in making the night a little too dark. I have seen ocean at night multiple times and, honestly, it will never get so pitch black. Not even on moonless nights. It hinders the gameplay.... Considering that most of the submarine attacks in WW2 took place at night and the real commanders had other things to rely on, like extra three pair of eyes on the watch, they could smell exhaust fuel of the ships etc. attacking ships gets extremely frustrating with your mod at night.

Don't take me wrong. In no way I intend to slam your mod, you have done a hell of a job but sometimes it is a litlle bit better to ease up on the realistic part for the sake of a gameplay....

What do you think?
To become more light water at night is very easy, but it is very realistic.

No moon night, the sea should be like asphalt, which is I have seen.

If there are many people like the water in the evening more light - when not moon. I can create a small patch for you.:hmm:
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E4.6 Adjust the color of the sunrise clouds wrong.Adjust the brightness of the sea at night.

http://files.filefront.com/Enviromen.../fileinfo.html

Yes please W_Clear , we want a patch to evening more light thank you very much
I dad change it for you ,and change night water color to o little light. night+light rar for E4.8

http://files.filefront.com/night+lightrar/;11653559;/fileinfo.html
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Old 08-30-08, 08:56 PM   #5
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When was the last version of this mod released??

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Old 08-07-08, 08:09 PM   #6
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Too bad this wont work in 1.4..Sounds like it's great....
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Old 08-07-08, 09:21 PM   #7
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Hi there , I got a stormy weather ,the sub was still out of the water , but the stormy ocean is Fantastic Awesome Incredible 99% realistic , congratulations W_Clear well done

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Old 08-08-08, 08:03 AM   #8
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Looks like the problem is due to the UBM mission PACK , Environment 4.6Mod is OK
I'm still not sure how or why that would be a cause. I've tested it (and created it) with the stock game with no mods and there is no issue. Those are just missions. They don't change a thing with regard to sub physics. I also created a test mission with just a IXD2 with an environment mod and still got the high riding sub. The issue seems to appear when you start a mission submerged and then surface. If already surfaced then you dive and surface again there is no issue. You can create a simple test mission and it will be easily reproducible.
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Old 08-08-08, 09:51 AM   #9
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Looks like the problem is due to the UBM mission PACK , Environment 4.6Mod is OK
The issue seems to appear when you start a mission submerged and then surface. If already surfaced then you dive and surface again there is no issue. You can create a simple test mission and it will be easily reproducible.
Hi there ( I dont speack very well english ) are you telling me that you also get this issue ? , it it not possible to change the settings somewhere about how much is the surface height on the water of the U-Boot ?
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Old 08-08-08, 10:16 AM   #10
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Hi there ( I dont speack very well english ) are you telling me that you also get this issue ? , it it not possible to change the settings somewhere about how much is the surface height on the water of the U-Boot ?
Yeah, I get the issue when running the current crop of environment mods. Like I said, though, with the bone stock game there is no issue, so whatever is causing it is introduced by the environment mods. Kriller2's upcoming PE4, sounds like it might resolve the issue. I'm sure there is something somewhere that changes the IXD2's draft, but I'm not sure where it might be.
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Old 08-12-08, 06:49 AM   #11
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Default Where's the crew?

My deck watch will not come up. I'm on patrol in a storm, on a Tambor, and when I surfaced - nobody came on deck. Nothing I could do would entice them!
Now I realize that OM is just uboats, or so I have been told, but here is my mods list for this patrol:
OpsMonsun_V301
NoSleepMod
ROW Camera vs_2
OM_V301_Patch2
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Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod
Enviromental 4.4a mod
BetrCreaking

There doesn't seem to be any mod here that would interfere. Environmental is about graphics/sound; No sleep is my own and deals with recovery when sleeping; and the rest are sound only mods.

Any ideas?:rotfl:
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Old 08-12-08, 07:20 AM   #12
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This Environmental 4.6Mod is Awesome , But I still have the Hight Ride Bug

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Old 08-12-08, 07:55 AM   #13
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Default A few request...if you please...:)

I tried your 4.6 mod...very impressive but...as you know tasts varies form person to person.If you allow me I will tell you frankly my thoughts and I then ask you for help to suit my needs...
What I liked:

I like the color of the sea (the new blue) and the fog effects.Very beautiful and REALISTICALLY ! Because of that made effect even when it rains the sea looks sharp and the lighting effects give it a realistic twist.Very appealing.
I like how the sub swings when are big waves.
I also liked the more realistic sunrise and sunset effects and coloristic palletts.
I noticed (and I liked it very much) that you changed the view of the sub " . " TAB. Excellent! Hight is bigger , to see the horizon and when you leave it , the view camera, it hangs and "goes" with the sub.Very clever! I liked it !

What I didn't like:


Night is too dark;It would be realistic, no argument here from me, but it's too dark for gameplay and for...me
The glass effect (no wind on see at all) is not realistic in my opinion (There can't be such sea with such perfect surface...) so it doesn't appeal to me unfortunately...
The underwater color doesn't match the surface "enviroment" color ...in my opinion...


What I would like form you my friend:

Teach me, please, what should I do to keep JUST what I like from your mod and how to change or dissmissed/ revert to stock effects etc...what I didin't like so...to suit my tastes ?

QUESTION: When I tried your mod I was already playing the uboat add-on campaign and had some saves.After installing your mod the saves loading crashed the game to desktop.Should I start a new campaign ?; is your mod incompatible with old saves or is not compatible with the uboat campaign ? I started a new campaign and a mission from the academy and the mod works fine so...I am just asking...

Marius F


PS - Hope I didn't offend you telling my opinions, it wasn't supposed to.
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Old 08-12-08, 08:32 AM   #14
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I tried this mod with the OM VX40 Beta, the latest version of Trigger Maru and the enable U Boat mod, and I got a few conflicts. I uninstalled this mod and all was fine again.
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Old 08-12-08, 09:49 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by prince_vlad
I tried your 4.6 mod...very impressive but...as you know tasts varies form person to person.If you allow me I will tell you frankly my thoughts and I then ask you for help to suit my needs...
What I liked:

I like the color of the sea (the new blue) and the fog effects.Very beautiful and REALISTICALLY ! Because of that made effect even when it rains the sea looks sharp and the lighting effects give it a realistic twist.Very appealing.
I like how the sub swings when are big waves.
I also liked the more realistic sunrise and sunset effects and coloristic palletts.
I noticed (and I liked it very much) that you changed the view of the sub " . " TAB. Excellent! Hight is bigger , to see the horizon and when you leave it , the view camera, it hangs and "goes" with the sub.Very clever! I liked it !

What I didn't like:


Night is too dark;It would be realistic, no argument here from me, but it's too dark for gameplay and for...me
The glass effect (no wind on see at all) is not realistic in my opinion (There can't be such sea with such perfect surface...) so it doesn't appeal to me unfortunately...
The underwater color doesn't match the surface "enviroment" color ...in my opinion...


What I would like form you my friend:

Teach me, please, what should I do to keep JUST what I like from your mod and how to change or dissmissed/ revert to stock effects etc...what I didin't like so...to suit my tastes ?

QUESTION: When I tried your mod I was already playing the uboat add-on campaign and had some saves.After installing your mod the saves loading crashed the game to desktop.Should I start a new campaign ?; is your mod incompatible with old saves or is not compatible with the uboat campaign ? I started a new campaign and a mission from the academy and the mod works fine so...I am just asking...

Marius F


PS - Hope I didn't offend you telling my opinions, it wasn't supposed to.
Enviromental 4.7 mod for you.

New seafoam
New wave of wind speed 0 meters ,hope you like it.
New color
But I don't want to change sea color of the night .sorry.
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http://files.filefront.com/Enviromental+47+modrar/;11467980;/fileinfo.html
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