There are some very sick people in the world

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by STEED

The UK is falling apart and no one has the guts to grab the nettle even if makes there hand bleed to sort the mess out.

N.H.S now ranks below Poland's Health Service.

I got to wait five weeks to see a GP and this one for the earliest slot I could get.

My own Farther has to wait more than a year for an operation and he's in a lot of pain. So bloody much for Labour Government telling us all everything is ticker-t-bo.

Well the longest I've ever had to wait for a GP is a couple of days at the most.

Also when did we fall below Poland? Last time I looked we were ranked 18

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

[STEED]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Also when did we fall below Poland? Last time I looked we were ranked 18

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

Out of date, did you see Revised 29-FEB-07


It was reference to a section of the N.H.S like A&E or standards, what ever.

[Trex]

Well, there must be limits to free speech. No one has the freedom to shout, "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, for instance. Child pornography is just about universally banned. But within some pretty broad limits, the producer of this little lovefest is, I suppose, free to get on with his production.

Having said that, MrBeast hit the nail on the head with his use of the word 'pretentious'. This isn't bold and it isn't daring; it's a just three year old trying to shock with potty words. "Christ, Hans, we've used every swear word in the book and they are still bored. Maybe if we got some naked grandmothers on stage it would get their attention, yes?"

What is objectionable about this drivel is that the self-appointed art experts will all be wetting their lace knickers in delight and sneering at the overwhelming majority who lack the 'vision' to appreciate its depth.

And the Emperor's new clothes suit him so well, don't you think?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Seems a bit ironic really but this is almost like some of the outrage over Fitna but in reverse.

If you want freedom of speech Subman you have to take the rough with the smooth I'm afraid.

BTW all sounds like a bunch of pretentious tripe to me, the opera that is.

Where do you get the idea that I am saying they can't do it? And, I am not protesting in the streets like Fitna either. You make correlations here that don't stack up. However, someone doing the same thing about the Germans love for killing the Jews would be on equal ground.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Well the longest I've ever had to wait for a GP is a couple of days at the most.

You shouldn't have to wait longer than 30 minutes. You think 3 days is good? Crazy.

-S

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

To All : READ THE ABOVE

Islanders are sooooo pushy

[Skybird]

Since it is about the fall of nations now, I recommend everybody the book that I currently read myself (still in the middle of it): Machiavelli: "Discorsi". That is a real eye-opener, and so laser-sharp observed by him. Although he takes his many examples from Rome, he could as well have had our present in mind when showing what works and what not in keeping a nation together, and keeping it healthy. Where he shows how experiments and political proceedingsa failed in the past, and why, I immediately realised how precise a description of many most elemental problems of modern Western democracies his comments are. His evil reputation of being mercilessly and egoist, is undeserved - he just does not become sentimental and instead sees reality like it is, in good and in bad. For political dreamdancers wanting to deceive the people for selfish interests, that is of course most unwelcome. Machiavelli is no state tyrant. In fact, he is a strong defender of the concept of a republic. but for a republic to work, many hard truths must be realised, and understood. And from that both Europe and America are lightyears away, judging by Machiavellis descriptions. we only have how both continents were planned to be like - and failed in realising that.

I already had read his biography longer while ago, which already was exciting, too.

[jumpy]

Can't see what difference it makes to reveal where you are from... or the motivation in this context to 'even the playing field'. Is someone taking notes and planning a visit?

What can I say, if you always hold the biggest stick, you can't expect everyone to like you, and can you be sure that even those who say they do are only saying so because of your big stick? Then there's the attitude one sometimes gets after holding that big stick for a while. The result is not always pleasant.

[bookworm_020]

IT seems a pathetic play that trys to cash in on poor taste and chep shots.. Still I think if you ignore it it will die quite quickly.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

IT seems a pathetic play that trys to cash in on poor taste and chep shots.. Still I think if you ignore it it will die quite quickly.

Yep, that's what happens with not a few theatre experiments like this. and once gone, nobody conciders them to be a loss. And short time later, only journalists eventually remembers them - when the next chaos group starts a mess on stage

[Etienne]

More post-modern theather crap. Seriously, I think half of these weirdos don't even do it to troll anymore, they actually believe themselves.

This is probably another of these stupid things that won't be remembered except for the free publicity the climb-the-curtain-in-outrage crowd will give it.

And Eeeeeew, naked old people.

[HunterICX]

I wonder how many people left the theater.....I would.

HunterICX

[Happy Times]

Is the director a communist? I would bet on it..

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Is the director a communist? I would bet on it..

?!
The article say he is Marxist, I think. But he could as well be something different. Bad taste is not limited to communism.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Skybird

?!
The article say he is Marxist, I think. But he could as well be something different. Bad taste is not limited to communism.

We have these "masterpieces" in Finland also, from the "artists" 90% are commies.
Im not saying they dont have the right for their art. The thing that irritates is that most are financed by tax revenue when there are real artists left without support.