[WIP]Playable PocketBB - Page 3

Raptor1 · 04-07-08, 10:44 AM

Or, Better yet, an Allied flag flying over the ship?

linerkiller · 04-07-08, 10:44 AM

Amazing Xantro...outstanding work

!!!
But all these Flakvierling mountings all over the ship...:hmm: ...i remember more single mountings, and there weren't any mountings at all in front of the forward heavy turret.

Rough image...but the AA positions are clearly visible

Hope this could help you in some ways

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linerkiller · 04-07-08, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Or, Better yet, an Allied flag flying over the ship?

Why an Allied flag

? Sometimes these ships used to steam under false flag to approach Allied ships unaware of their nationality and intentions...before raising the KM flag and stop the ship with a shot across its bow

...but I don't think this is moddable in the game

...and then enemy ships will immediately recognise you as enemy

.

Usually, pocket battleships used to sail with the central barrel of each heavy turret trained with a 30 degrees elevation, to give the impression of having four turrets, to disguise themselves as a british old battleship.

obviously these tricks worked only with some

merchant ship lookouts.

Will-Rommel · 04-07-08, 11:02 AM

An allied flag?

This is a german battleship, and it's built for the u-boat campaign right?

Raptor1 · 04-07-08, 11:07 AM

I was referring to the false flag thing, I know it wouldn't be possible to change the flag during the game but w/e...

lancerr · 04-07-08, 11:20 AM

Pictures of Graf Spee & Admiral Scheer -close up

MMarques · 04-07-08, 01:35 PM

Here's the AA arrangement of the Admiral Graf Spee, I've marked all the spots where she had her AA guns, note that the 2 2cm guns under the rear 11" turret are not in the correct place at the ingame model, also there's a few extra guns in the ingame model that dont exist.

these are the 2cm guns

and these are the 3,7cm guns, note that the 3,7cm guns are duals and that's why they are 8 in 4 emplacements.

Here you can clearly see what I ment about the rear AA guns

Anyways, I'm doing some more research, if you need anything dont hesitate to ask. As usual, I'l be around

Xantrokoles · 04-07-08, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Will-Rommel

Is there a way to have the Kriegsmarine flag flying over the ship?

I want it for sure, but I have to have a look at it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor

Or, Better yet, an Allied flag flying over the ship?

Never ever on my German Crusier I will give an allied flag!

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Originally Posted by linkiller

But all these Flakvierling mountings all over the ship...:hmm: ..

Ha I know..on this ship there is no Vierling...:rotfl:
But I haven't spend time into the flags until now and they are on this positions, cause I used my fubuki class as a basic...

And thanks for the images!

Thanks for the images you all and Thanks for the AA gun info Marco!

MMarques · 04-07-08, 01:41 PM

Oh another thing, in that last image I uploaded you can see that there's a missing 2cm AA gun near the torpedo tubes but if you take a closer look the emplacement is there so I guess they were detachable.

Xantrokoles · 04-07-08, 01:43 PM

The 8 25mm are Deck Guns???

M. Sarsfield · 04-07-08, 01:47 PM

This will be fun blowing merchies out of the water with a pocket battleship. It will be fun to scrap it up with some allied DD's and CA's, too.

MMarques · 04-07-08, 01:48 PM

There's no 25mm guns on there, if you mean the 2cm ones they're all singles and I believe there's some avaliable for the U-Boats.

EDIT: Just checked again and they're the same as the ones the stock IXD2 brings along on the campain mounted on the conning tower.

Xantrokoles · 04-07-08, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by M.Sarsfield

This will be fun blowing merchies out of the water with a pocket battleship. It will be fun to scrap it up with some allied DD's and CA's, too.

:p Thats the reason I built it or?

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Originally Posted by Marco Marques

There's no 25mm guns on there, if you mean the 2cm ones they're all singles and I believe there's some avaliable for the U-Boats.

EDIT: Just checked again and they're the same as the ones the stock IXD2 brings along on the campain mounted on the conning tower

.

No I mean the ones u forgot on the first picture...
they have an barrel...they are similar to the double dg's of my destroyer but only one canon

MMarques · 04-07-08, 02:08 PM

The Graf Spee didnt have any other AA guns, they're all at that first image.

EDIT: Maybe you ment the secondary guns, those are 15cm guns, there's 8 of them 4 on each side of the ship. They are not used as AA, they're anti-ship guns.

Xantrokoles · 04-07-08, 02:37 PM

That's what I mean

But I only got 88mm double guns anstett of the 105mm...
may this changed in war..

Soo...now we got arround 40% of the guns working
My Porblem is, that I need one playable flak and one playable Deck gun.
The Flak is not the Problem, because there are the same flaks playable and I can use them

Behind the Ai Flaks are 3d people standing
Also there are 18 guys running arround now(they are usually ijn guys but u dont see that

(same ijn gyus used on graf spee/deutschland in game)

Oh I forgot to set the High Res watchcrew, but first my Guns.

Should I add a german 105mm Sub Deck gun on a seperate place or schould I hit it into the model?/may like in my DD?

04-07-08, 10:44 AM	#31
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04-07-08, 10:44 AM	#32
linerkiller Captain Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Modena,Italy Posts: 486 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Amazing Xantro...outstanding work !!! But all these Flakvierling mountings all over the ship...:hmm: ...i remember more single mountings, and there weren't any mountings at all in front of the forward heavy turret. Rough image...but the AA positions are clearly visible Hope this could help you in some ways ... __________________ "A hard drill makes an easy battle" Alexander V. Suvorov "When we realized that our clubbing and kickings were being administered by the burned, mutilated survivors of our handiwork, we found we could take it with less prejudice." Captain Richard "Dick" O'Kane-USS Tang http://www.youtube.com/user/willembrock

04-07-08, 11:02 AM	#34
Will-Rommel Chief Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 320 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	An allied flag? This is a german battleship, and it's built for the u-boat campaign right? __________________ -Fighting is a lifestyle-

04-07-08, 11:07 AM	#35
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I was referring to the false flag thing, I know it wouldn't be possible to change the flag during the game but w/e... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

04-07-08, 11:20 AM	#36
lancerr Loader Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 88 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Don't know if this helps but I wanted to help out someway? Pictures of Graf Spee & Admiral Scheer -close up __________________ Best naval sim of all time - TF 1942

04-07-08, 01:35 PM	#37
MMarques Mate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 56 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Here's the AA arrangement of the Admiral Graf Spee, I've marked all the spots where she had her AA guns, note that the 2 2cm guns under the rear 11" turret are not in the correct place at the ingame model, also there's a few extra guns in the ingame model that dont exist. these are the 2cm guns and these are the 3,7cm guns, note that the 3,7cm guns are duals and that's why they are 8 in 4 emplacements. Here you can clearly see what I ment about the rear AA guns Anyways, I'm doing some more research, if you need anything dont hesitate to ask. As usual, I'l be around __________________

04-07-08, 01:41 PM	#39
MMarques Mate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 56 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Oh another thing, in that last image I uploaded you can see that there's a missing 2cm AA gun near the torpedo tubes but if you take a closer look the emplacement is there so I guess they were detachable. __________________

04-07-08, 01:43 PM	#40
Xantrokoles Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 659 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	The 8 25mm are Deck Guns??? __________________

04-07-08, 01:47 PM	#41
M. Sarsfield Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,016 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This will be fun blowing merchies out of the water with a pocket battleship. It will be fun to scrap it up with some allied DD's and CA's, too. __________________ MJS USS Batfish Volunteer/Reenactor www.ss310.com www.ussbatfish.com Communism killed over 100M people and all that I got was this lousy signature.* *http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

04-07-08, 01:48 PM	#42
MMarques Mate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 56 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	There's no 25mm guns on there, if you mean the 2cm ones they're all singles and I believe there's some avaliable for the U-Boats. EDIT: Just checked again and they're the same as the ones the stock IXD2 brings along on the campain mounted on the conning tower. __________________

04-07-08, 02:08 PM	#44
MMarques Mate Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 56 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The Graf Spee didnt have any other AA guns, they're all at that first image. EDIT: Maybe you ment the secondary guns, those are 15cm guns, there's 8 of them 4 on each side of the ship. They are not used as AA, they're anti-ship guns. __________________

04-07-08, 02:37 PM	#45
Xantrokoles Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 659 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	That's what I mean But I only got 88mm double guns anstett of the 105mm... may this changed in war.. Soo...now we got arround 40% of the guns working My Porblem is, that I need one playable flak and one playable Deck gun. The Flak is not the Problem, because there are the same flaks playable and I can use them Behind the Ai Flaks are 3d people standing Also there are 18 guys running arround now(they are usually ijn guys but u dont see that (same ijn gyus used on graf spee/deutschland in game) Oh I forgot to set the High Res watchcrew, but first my Guns. Should I add a german 105mm Sub Deck gun on a seperate place or schould I hit it into the model?/may like in my DD? __________________