Liveleak under threat from Islam!

[Happy Times]

[DeepIron]

Seriously though, I'm bowing out of Islamic threads for a while and I shall just spectate it seems that one or two others are getting fed up, so I think we should just agree to disagee.

A wise choice IMO MB... Pour me a Guiness if you will and we'll sit and watch from the sidelines...

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Can you really blame thUnfortunatly, quite a few. Problem is, to raise the subject is to draw fire from their mouths. Now we just ignore the subject compltely since in some cases, we have not talked for over a year. I can't avoid them through mutual friends, so its a catch 22 situation.

After all the **** in recent times that Muslims have been through, they finally get their chance to fire back. They're under attack with stereotypes and hate, although they can be the same way (but honestly, the Muslim community is under serious attack at this point). If you actually lived the life of a Muslim, then I'm fairly sure you'd understand why they fight for their beliefs (not just because the Quaran says they should; the Muslims in general suffer from extensive problems in social affairs, and they're becoming the new version of the black man during the 1950's and 1960's, discriminated against for their beliefs).

Christians are really no better. They try to force people to live the same way they do. Abortion? Stem-cell research? How about evolution being taught in school? They use violence, too. Radical Christians have in the past BOMBED abortion clinics because "it defies the word of god". Really now? Then you're just as bad as the radical Muslims, since they too say "it's the word of god".

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

PS. If you're Christian, why not invite your neighborly muslim neighbors over for dinner? Hahaha!

I'll be sure to bring my Muslim BROTHERS along with me next time. Hell, maybe we'll bring our tents and camp out on your front lawn. We might even bring our replica guns and RPG's along with a video camera to play "Terrorist Video Challenge".

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

After all the **** in recent times that Muslims have been through, they finally get their chance to fire back. They're under attack with stereotypes and hate, although they can be the same way (but honestly, the Muslim community is under serious attack at this point). If you actually lived the life of a Muslim, then I'm fairly sure you'd understand why they fight for their beliefs (not just because the Quaran says they should; the Muslims in general suffer from extensive problems in social affairs, and they're becoming the new version of the black man during the 1950's and 1960's, discriminated against for their beliefs).

Christians are really no better. They try to force people to live the same way they do. Abortion? Stem-cell research? How about evolution being taught in school? They use violence, too. Radical Christians have in the past BOMBED abortion clinics because "it defies the word of god". Really now? Then you're just as bad as the radical Muslims, since they too say "it's the word of god".

I'll be sure to bring my Muslim BROTHERS along with me next time. Hell, maybe we'll bring our tents and camp out on your front lawn. We might even bring our replica guns and RPG's along with a video camera to play "Terrorist Video Challenge".

Go attack the jihadists if you are worried about your public image, if you go in Subman yard he will probably shoot you.

[joea]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Go attack the jihadists if you are worried about your public image, if you go in Subman yard he will probably shoot you.

Your ignorance is appalling.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

if you go in Subman yard he will probably shoot you.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Go attack the jihadists if you are worried about your public image, if you go in Subman yard he will probably shoot you.

Probably true. I don't take to kindly to uninvited intruders, and have plenty of ammo to deal with the situation.

Then again, maybe I shouldn't be cautious. Islam is a peaceful religion and all:

Dubai, 28 March (AKI) - A photo of Dutch right-wing politician Geert Wilders has been posted on several Islamist websites linked to al-Qaeda, after his anti-Koran film was released on a video-sharing website on Thursday.
Wilders' 17-minute film entitled Fitna, criticised Islam's holy book, the Koran.

The film sets verses of the Koran against a background of images from terrorist attacks.

"The Dutch, enemy of Allah, has done what he threatened to do and distributed his film," said a banner in an Islamist website.

The message is followed by dozens of posts by visitors of the site asking for Muslims to act against him.

"Dear brothers, remember what happened to Ariel Sharon. Now let's hope that he (Wilders) ends up the same way," says a member of the forum.

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

A wise choice IMO MB... Pour me a Guiness if you will and we'll sit and watch from the sidelines...

Good idea DeepIron I haven't had a pint of Guiness for years!

BTW this post doesn't count for putting a 'Jihad' on me Team America stylee, I'm off topic! LOL

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by joea

Your ignorance is appalling.

To me, it sounds like he is greatly informed, so I would re-direct that statement back at you!

-S

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by joea

Your ignorance is appalling.

Explain?

[Stealth Hunter]

Cases of Christian terrorism:

[1]
http://www.commonplacebook.com/curre...ian_terro.shtm
(relatively old, but still has some good statistics in it)

(from the year 2001) Over 170 abortion clinics and doctors' offices in 14 states and the District of Columbia received threatening letters claiming to contain anthrax. The envelopes had return addresses from the U.S. Secret Service and U.S. Marshall Service with postmarks from Atlanta, GA; Knoxville, TN; Chattanooga, TN; or Columbus, OH. The envelopes were also marked, "TIME SENSITIVE: Urgent Security Notice Enclosed." When opened by clinic staff, all letters contained a white powder with a letter stating, "You have been exposed to anthrax. We are going to kill all of you. Army of God, Virginia DARE Chapter."


[2]
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm
(another good statistical site)


[3]
http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...19258620070428
(interesting news article)

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Cases of Christian terrorism:

[1]
http://www.commonplacebook.com/curre...ian_terro.shtm
(relatively old, but still has some good statistics in it)

(from the year 2001) Over 170 abortion clinics and doctors' offices in 14 states and the District of Columbia received threatening letters claiming to contain anthrax. The envelopes had return addresses from the U.S. Secret Service and U.S. Marshall Service with postmarks from Atlanta, GA; Knoxville, TN; Chattanooga, TN; or Columbus, OH. The envelopes were also marked, "TIME SENSITIVE: Urgent Security Notice Enclosed." When opened by clinic staff, all letters contained a white powder with a letter stating, "You have been exposed to anthrax. We are going to kill all of you. Army of God, Virginia DARE Chapter."


[2]
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm
(another good statistical site)


[3]
http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...19258620070428
(interesting news article)

Not sure I remember mass marchings in the street from Christians, nor suicide bombings, nor be-headings, nor do I remember an airplane full of innocent passengers being flown into a building. Seems to me, I can't remember Christians killing Christians either.

Always a couple whackos in any part of the world, but Islam has managed to take it up not 10 notches, but 100. That is the problem.

So are you really serious in trying to do a compare here? For real? This could be funny!

-S

[Stealth Hunter]

Terrorism: unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against people or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies


True with the Muslims on 9/11... not ALL of them... also true for the "Warriors of God" and their abortion clinics.

Although, the best case we might have of terrorism in the Christian/Catholic religions stems from the Inquisition era, in which torture, execution, and imprisonment were used to convert the people of Europe under the belief in Jesus Christ as the only Lord and Saviour. During these eras (Spanish Inquisition, Italian Inquisition, etc.), an estimated 100,000 people were imprisoned, tortured, and executed for their beliefs which differed from those that the followers of Christ had. The executed included Jews, Muslims, Pagans, "Heretics", and several other smaller religions that existed throughout the European nations of the time.

Not a modern piece of terrorism, but it's what's gotten Christianity/Catholicism to where it is today. Using fear of torture and death, the two religions removed any "non-believers" and only allowed believers to live. The point, which was quite clear, as even the Church stated this was: "Convert or Die".

Several thousand died on 9/11, yes that's true. It was a modern event, and it was very terrible. Despite the fact the Inquisition was officially abolished just 174 years ago (1834; making it relatively old), the fact still stands that 100,000 people were tortured to death because of their beliefs. Old, yes, but it's like the Holocaust. Just because it started over 6 decades ago doesn't mean we should forget it and move on. Despite what you may say, the Inquisition was a form of terrorism.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Terrorism: unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence against people or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies


True with the Muslims on 9/11... not ALL of them... also true for the "Warriors of God" and their abortion clinics.

Although, the best case we might have of terrorism in the Christian/Catholic religions stems from the Inquisition era, in which torture, execution, and imprisonment were used to convert the people of Europe under the belief in Jesus Christ as the only Lord and Saviour. During these eras (Spanish Inquisition, Italian Inquisition, etc.), an estimated 100,000 people were imprisoned, tortured, and executed for their beliefs which differed from those that the followers of Christ had. The executed included Jews, Muslims, Pagans, "Heretics", and several other smaller religions that existed throughout the European nations of the time.

Not a modern piece of terrorism, but it's what's gotten Christianity/Catholicism to where it is today. Using fear of torture and death, the two religions removed any "non-believers" and only allowed believers to live. The point, which was quite clear, as even the Church stated this was: "Convert or Die".

Several thousand died on 9/11, yes that's true. It was a modern event, and it was very terrible. Despite the fact the Inquisition was officially abolished just 174 years ago (1834; making it relatively old), the fact still stands that 100,000 people were tortured to death because of their beliefs. Old, yes, but it's like the Holocaust. Just because it started over 6 decades ago doesn't mean we should forget it and move on. Despite what you may say, the Inquisition was a form of terrorism.

Despite being 600 years younger Islams body count is millions bigger than Christianitys.
And it continues today all over the world, lets be honest about this.
This pussy footing is getting old.

[Stealth Hunter]

[quote=Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

Despite being 600 years younger Islams body count is millions bigger than Christianitys.
And it continues today all over the world, lets be honest about this.
This pussy footing is getting old.

Younger it is, but I'm afraid that talk is quite cheap when it comes to your statistics on body counts. If you can show me EVIDENCE that they've killed millions, feel free to post it. That's not to be rude, but honestly, given how many Holy Wars have been put on the Muslims, I really doubt that they've killed millions more than the Christians have in the name of god.