why do you like sh3 so much - Page 3

Klaus_Doldinger · 11-05-07, 09:23 AM

I like SHIII for various reasons.

First of all, I think that the combination SHIII+SH3Commander+GWX 1.03 is a totally different game from stock SHIII.

Second, because you can -if you like subs, specially german subs- play it as inmersive as you like, not only thanks to the game itself, but also for SH3Commander and GWX. You can know every member of your crew, you can acquire experience with them as missions pass...

Also I like the ending careers with SHIII Commander; you can be sent to command a office when you´re in the zenit of your career, but... that´s a order.

You can evaluate risks and take the adequate decision in every moment. Up to 1942, I´m proud to have survived in a lot of careers simply applying common sense, and not making temerary/stupid things. It´s very pleasant to have attacked a convoy -with more or less fortune, say you only hit a ship- and then slip unnoticed to the escorts... or in the worst case, to avoid them after one, two... three hours of being depthcharged and pinged, hearing the explosions more and more distant... One more time you and your crew have survived to a horrible "death".
Not to say the surprises you find -I always play without external camera- when you hit, say, one ship, hear one or two more explosions and emerge to see one or two merchants dead in the water waiting for your following torpedoes...

I like also that every missions can be different from the previous one. You can bore to death crossing two, three or five thousand NM without seeing a single ship (worse still, a neutral argentinian or irish "mini-convoy" plenty of big merchants and tankers) or... receive lots of convoy sightings, many times in the worst atmospheric conditions, making interceptions or attacks very difficult. And in every mission you can learn or put in practice the advertisements you read here or in other forums from more experienced players, from the simplest things to the most complex.

And also... I like to set TC x1, put a record on the gramophone, take a look to the last radio messages, and go to the bridge to look at the stars.

There are many reasons to enjoy with

this game...

flag4 · 11-06-07, 12:21 PM

hi Klaus_Doldinger

WOW !!

you certainly know why you like it !!

wish i had your confidence and skill with the manual targetting - cause it ties me in knots

!! .

cheers
flag4

STEED · 11-06-07, 12:40 PM

SH3 offers you to get rid of your frustration and yell at the screen while you break wind and drink beer.

Klaus_Doldinger · 11-06-07, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flag4

hi Klaus_Doldinger

WOW !!

you certainly know why you like it !!

wish i had your confidence and skill with the manual targetting - cause it ties me in knots

!! .

cheers
flag4

Try Joergrundman tools, they are a great help fot manual targeting. They need some practice, but are useful and also eye candy.

I must try also OLC interface...

Blacklight · 11-06-07, 01:04 PM

I think for me, it's the incredible tension and emotion in me that this game generates. I find myself getting excited when I spot the first inklings of a ship/convoy/task force heading my way. Then there's the tension of tracking the prey without being seen... getting into just the right spot to take your shot.
Then there's more tension after you fire... as you wait several minutes hoping and praying that your calculations were correct ! Sometimes, when I hit a target, I feel like jumping out of my chair and shouting "YAHOOOOOO !!!" while tossing things in the air as the explosion kicks that plume of water into the air.
Then there is the opposite tension.. the tension of being the hunted. No other game scares the pants off me more than this game. You're diving for cover.. then you hear them approaching... their engines churning through the water.. getting closer.. closer... then.. there's that haunting "ping ! ping !" followed by the sound of their engines getting closer....closer.... then "Splash"... "Please god ! Don't let those depth charges be near me.. please... please...."
Then.. if you escape... there's that huge feeling of relief when you surface. You get to breathe easy... until you spot that British plane diving down on you...

This game is an emotional roller coaster for me and I LOVE the ride.

BootsmanBoof · 11-06-07, 02:01 PM

I bought the game in a bargain bin a few weeks back for AU$20, thought I'd check it out. WHOOOAAAH! Best 20 bucks I ever spent

.

I recall in my teens being abandoned at the State Library by my parents for days on end at one period of time. I instantly gravitated to musty books about the U-boat war, details of each sub and their operations etc. I read these things for hours. I was fascinated, and awestruck at the bravery of the U-boat crews when casualty rates and the dangers were considered. A 75% death rate

. What men! I didn't care that my grandparents generation thought of them as the "enemy" - the staunchness of the U-boat crews cannot be denied, despite the somewhat "dirty" nature of their operations. Total War was Total War for both sides.

So now, 20 years later, I have the opportunity to recreate this deadly period of history, without the danger of course.

I love the weather, the cruise, the mood, the chase and the hunt, and the exhilaration of a torp breaking a target's back. I like the tension of being pinged, the sounds of doomed vessels singing and creaking as they sink......in fact I like just about everything about it.

Best damned game ever - if only I'd discovered it a few years back....

Torplexed · 11-06-07, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Samwolf

I played that and then upgraded to the State of the art Avalon hill U-Boat.

Thanks for the memories.

Wow! I've never seen a copy of U-Boat before. Very cool. Musta been one of their early titles. The old days of paper games before silicon came along.

I played Avalon Hill's Submarine. I wish I had kept my copy. Still probably the only game that let you play any nation's subs in WW2.

Jay Carlson · 11-06-07, 10:10 PM

Why still playing, and loving it? Playing GWX, SH3Commander plus some skins. Thanks modders. I have yet to see 1945 DID. Even tried playing my first officers when sent to new boat and had three careers going at once. Now granted, I'm not playing as much as I could, but you have to love a game that you can't simply beat by putting in the hours. Just when I think I've learned all the stupid mistakes, then I forget to lower TC near England in heavy weather and get whacked by a destroyer. Or DC's for 4 hours by 3 DD's until my boat simply slides into the deep. Dive the wrong way after a torpedo shoot, with screws turning too fast, and the DD tracks me, hits me and forces me to turn off silent running to repair flooding. Bye bye. Or the worst - drinking brandy (not flavored), watching TV and listening to the wife when the Royal Airforce screams in from the clouds. So many lost crews due to my multitasking. So many ways to go.

In a way, I hope I never reach war's end. I'll feel like a finally beat the game. That's what brings me back over and over. When I beat the game, I'll buy SHIV.

Oh and Avalon Hill, SPI games and GDW. Still have a closet full of them. Geez I love those days.

Stealth Hunter · 11-06-07, 11:17 PM

SHIV is all eye-candy and lag. SHIII wasn't the best (7/10'r), but mods have beefed it up to a 9.7 with exceptional graphics and sound.

Always did enjoy blowing tankers and destroyers in half, then watching them plunge to their doom.

Blacklight · 11-06-07, 11:59 PM

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Man does this bring back memories. I have a copy of Submarine (which is the Avalon Hill reprint of U-Boat from 1976. U-Boat was originally published in 1959, so you have a real treasure there). Submarine holds up to this day as pretty much the best board simulation of U-boat warfare ever done and I still break it out to play on occasion. A close seccond would have to be Compas Games, Steel Wolves due to be released in 2008 which is basically an Atlantic version of their Silent War game (which is a fantastic and pretty damn accurate solo play submarine board game about the submarine war in the Pacific in WWII). hehe Can you tell I'm a bit of a board wargame buff ?

Torplexed · 11-07-07, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight

hehe Can you tell I'm a bit of a board wargame buff ?

Yeah I still have a few of the old cardboard warriors left myself.

Haven't played 'em in years, but I can't bear to let them go.

Keep meaning to pick up Compass Game's Silent War.

Blacklight · 11-07-07, 02:26 PM

I really enjoy Command at Sea (miniatures wargame) for WWII submarine actions probably the best of all the games I have. The only catch is.. you really have to have three players or more (one referee and the rest as players) to really get the propper feel.

11-05-07, 09:23 AM	#31
Klaus_Doldinger Planesman Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Madrid, España Posts: 198 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I like SHIII for various reasons. First of all, I think that the combination SHIII+SH3Commander+GWX 1.03 is a totally different game from stock SHIII. Second, because you can -if you like subs, specially german subs- play it as inmersive as you like, not only thanks to the game itself, but also for SH3Commander and GWX. You can know every member of your crew, you can acquire experience with them as missions pass... Also I like the ending careers with SHIII Commander; you can be sent to command a office when you´re in the zenit of your career, but... that´s a order. You can evaluate risks and take the adequate decision in every moment. Up to 1942, I´m proud to have survived in a lot of careers simply applying common sense, and not making temerary/stupid things. It´s very pleasant to have attacked a convoy -with more or less fortune, say you only hit a ship- and then slip unnoticed to the escorts... or in the worst case, to avoid them after one, two... three hours of being depthcharged and pinged, hearing the explosions more and more distant... One more time you and your crew have survived to a horrible "death". Not to say the surprises you find -I always play without external camera- when you hit, say, one ship, hear one or two more explosions and emerge to see one or two merchants dead in the water waiting for your following torpedoes... I like also that every missions can be different from the previous one. You can bore to death crossing two, three or five thousand NM without seeing a single ship (worse still, a neutral argentinian or irish "mini-convoy" plenty of big merchants and tankers) or... receive lots of convoy sightings, many times in the worst atmospheric conditions, making interceptions or attacks very difficult. And in every mission you can learn or put in practice the advertisements you read here or in other forums from more experienced players, from the simplest things to the most complex. And also... I like to set TC x1, put a record on the gramophone, take a look to the last radio messages, and go to the bridge to look at the stars. There are many reasons to enjoy with this game... __________________ OL zS. Siegfried Rollmann, U 108 in WaW IV, 6th war patrol with GWX 3.0 Gold (111.829 BRT) Lt zS Klaus Doldinger (U 36), 4th war patrol with GWX 3.0 Gold (50.713 BRT) SH3 Cmdr 3.1 GWX 3.0 GWX 16 Km atmosphere GWX no medals on crew GWX open hatch GWX Saint Nazaire, Schleuse and units OLC GUI 1.2.7 Thomsen´s sound Torpedo damage final Rubini´s lifeboats and debris D.i.D.

11-06-07, 12:40 PM	#33
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	SH3 offers you to get rid of your frustration and yell at the screen while you break wind and drink beer. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

11-06-07, 01:04 PM	#35
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	I think for me, it's the incredible tension and emotion in me that this game generates. I find myself getting excited when I spot the first inklings of a ship/convoy/task force heading my way. Then there's the tension of tracking the prey without being seen... getting into just the right spot to take your shot. Then there's more tension after you fire... as you wait several minutes hoping and praying that your calculations were correct ! Sometimes, when I hit a target, I feel like jumping out of my chair and shouting "YAHOOOOOO !!!" while tossing things in the air as the explosion kicks that plume of water into the air. Then there is the opposite tension.. the tension of being the hunted. No other game scares the pants off me more than this game. You're diving for cover.. then you hear them approaching... their engines churning through the water.. getting closer.. closer... then.. there's that haunting "ping ! ping !" followed by the sound of their engines getting closer....closer.... then "Splash"... "Please god ! Don't let those depth charges be near me.. please... please...." Then.. if you escape... there's that huge feeling of relief when you surface. You get to breathe easy... until you spot that British plane diving down on you... This game is an emotional roller coaster for me and I LOVE the ride. __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

11-06-07, 02:01 PM	#36
BootsmanBoof Mate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 56 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	I bought the game in a bargain bin a few weeks back for AU$20, thought I'd check it out. WHOOOAAAH! Best 20 bucks I ever spent . I recall in my teens being abandoned at the State Library by my parents for days on end at one period of time. I instantly gravitated to musty books about the U-boat war, details of each sub and their operations etc. I read these things for hours. I was fascinated, and awestruck at the bravery of the U-boat crews when casualty rates and the dangers were considered. A 75% death rate . What men! I didn't care that my grandparents generation thought of them as the "enemy" - the staunchness of the U-boat crews cannot be denied, despite the somewhat "dirty" nature of their operations. Total War was Total War for both sides. So now, 20 years later, I have the opportunity to recreate this deadly period of history, without the danger of course. I love the weather, the cruise, the mood, the chase and the hunt, and the exhilaration of a torp breaking a target's back. I like the tension of being pinged, the sounds of doomed vessels singing and creaking as they sink......in fact I like just about everything about it. Best damned game ever - if only I'd discovered it a few years back.... __________________ "Of all the branches of men in the forces there is none which shows more devotion and faces grimmer perils than the submariners." Sir Winston Churchill.

11-07-07, 02:26 PM	#42
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	I really enjoy Command at Sea (miniatures wargame) for WWII submarine actions probably the best of all the games I have. The only catch is.. you really have to have three players or more (one referee and the rest as players) to really get the propper feel. __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

11-06-07, 12:21 PM	#32
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	hi Klaus_Doldinger WOW !! you certainly know why you like it !! wish i had your confidence and skill with the manual targetting - cause it ties me in knots !! . cheers flag4

11-06-07, 10:10 PM	#38
Jay Carlson Watch Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 22 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why still playing, and loving it? Playing GWX, SH3Commander plus some skins. Thanks modders. I have yet to see 1945 DID. Even tried playing my first officers when sent to new boat and had three careers going at once. Now granted, I'm not playing as much as I could, but you have to love a game that you can't simply beat by putting in the hours. Just when I think I've learned all the stupid mistakes, then I forget to lower TC near England in heavy weather and get whacked by a destroyer. Or DC's for 4 hours by 3 DD's until my boat simply slides into the deep. Dive the wrong way after a torpedo shoot, with screws turning too fast, and the DD tracks me, hits me and forces me to turn off silent running to repair flooding. Bye bye. Or the worst - drinking brandy (not flavored), watching TV and listening to the wife when the Royal Airforce screams in from the clouds. So many lost crews due to my multitasking. So many ways to go. In a way, I hope I never reach war's end. I'll feel like a finally beat the game. That's what brings me back over and over. When I beat the game, I'll buy SHIV. Oh and Avalon Hill, SPI games and GDW. Still have a closet full of them. Geez I love those days.

11-06-07, 11:17 PM	#39
Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	SHIV is all eye-candy and lag. SHIII wasn't the best (7/10'r), but mods have beefed it up to a 9.7 with exceptional graphics and sound. Always did enjoy blowing tankers and destroyers in half, then watching them plunge to their doom.