Opinions on recreational drug use?

[RedMenace]

I'm pretty much against using narcotics such as nicotine, alcohol, cocaine, heroin, and the like. But other drugs I'm not so against, I have no problem with people smoking pot, dropping LSD, or tripping on mescaline or peyote. These drugs are unaddictive, are relatively harmless (although still capable of abuse), and do not damage the physical or mental health of the user.

I just don't understand why some of the safe and non-addictive substances such as marijuana and acid are highly illegal, while extremely addictive and body-destroying substances such as tobacco and alcohol is allowed for consumption.

Makes no sense to me.

Any opinions?

[JSLTIGER]

Please tell me that this is a joke...LSD is one of the most dangerous drugs that you can possibly do, because it never really leaves your system. You can have flashbacks to your trip years after you've taken the drug. Marijuana is just as, if not more dangerous than cigarettes as, b/c of their illegality, filters are not a part of the marijuana cigarette. Tripping on anything can make you do things you would not ordinarily do, and can be extremely hazardous to others around you if you are stupid enough to use such things, for example, while operating a motor vehicle.

[Enigma]

Marijuana is just as, if not more dangerous than cigarettes

This is completely false.

[Penelope_Grey]

Originally Posted by Enigma

This is completely false.

No it isn't completely false.

Marijuana or whatever handle you wish to give it, with enough usage can, and does, eventually clog up the pathways in your brain. Effectively turning you into a hapless clod eventually.

It intereferes with the natural chemical orders inside ones brain, and as a consequence requires that the user will have to take it in order to feel good, because there will be no other way else he can feel good.

Marijuana in its raw form is still something that when inhaled causes you harm. No matter how you dress it up.

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Marijuana in its raw form is still something that when inhaled causes you harm. No matter how you dress it up.

:hmm: What if you eat it

:rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

:hmm: What if you eat it

:rotfl:

I love you, Alice B. Toklas.

[RedMenace]

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

Please tell me that this is a joke...LSD is one of the most dangerous drugs that you can possibly do, because it never really leaves your system. You can have flashbacks to your trip years after you've taken the drug. Marijuana is just as, if not more dangerous than cigarettes as, b/c of their illegality, filters are not a part of the marijuana cigarette. Tripping on anything can make you do things you would not ordinarily do, and can be extremely hazardous to others around you if you are stupid enough to use such things, for example, while operating a motor vehicle.

Wow, okay, you should read up a little.

I have no idea how marijuana could be more dangerous than cigarettes, considering, you know, marijuana has no physically addictive properties while cigarettes are supposed to be on par with heroin in terms of addiction strength. If you mean that marijuana is more harmful to your lungs, that's untrue. A large percentage of smokers smoke one to two packs of cigarettes a day. I'd say the average pothead smokes a joint a day, probablly much less. Also, marijuana does not need to be smoked. It can ingested orally too, mixed with food or otherwise.

Driving? Sure, driving under the influence of anything should be heavily heavily discouraged, but you should read up, because pot doesn't really present a cause for worry on the roads. Unlike alcohol, cannabis doesn't inhibit risk-taking in an individual, and actually causes them to drive more cautiously, causing them to overcompensate for their intoxication.

LSD is not physically harmful nor is it an addictive substance. Although there are some studies that say that it may worsen your case if you already have a history of mental illnesses, it otherwise presents no risk to yourself, except if you do something stupid while "tripping." Also, the part about LSD staying in your system for the rest of your life is complete and utter BS.

[kiwi_2005]

I would say LSD is harmful the user can become psychotic in longterm use. Cannibis, well i think the worse thing to come out of cannibis is to end up like a type of Cheech & Chong, short term memory, bouts of daydreaming with a strong desire to eat alot :rotfl:

[antikristuseke]

While LSD isnt addictive i would call it safe by no means, though i have no problem with alcohol, nicotine or marihuanause.

[Letum]

"Drugs are a health risk."

However, there are some drugs that carry less risk of physical or mental injury than rugby does.

I find it hard to condemn drugs on the basis that they cause physical and /or mental damage
with out condemning rugby, rock climbing, DIY or extreme sports.

"Drugs are linked to crime."

However, just because one takes drugs does not mean that you will commit crime.
The vast majority of drug users are not criminals.
There is also a link between being male and committing crime.

I find it hard to condemn drugs on the basis that they are linked to crime with out
condemning my gender.

"Drugs may cause you to sit at home all day, unwashed doing no work."

Well, yes, I have seen that often enough. However, you can do that with or
without drugs.
I'm told the Internet has similar effects.

"Drugs can be enjoyable."

Can't really argue with that, that's why they are so popular.

"Drugs can be very un-enjoyable."

Can't argue with that either!



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I don't take drugs for the same reason I don't take part in extreme sports; for me the
benefits do not out weigh the risks.

If someone else wishes to take drugs then I don't see any logical reason to condemn or stop them.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

I would say LSD is harmful the user can become psychotic in longterm use. Cannibis, well i think the worse thing to come out of cannibis is to end up like a type of Cheech & Chong, short term memory, bouts of daydreaming with a strong desire to eat alot

Not exactly what one would call a productive member of society.

LSD is terrible, causing people to jump from skyscrappers, so I can't believe this was even brought up. It makes me question the intentions of the original poster.

Cannibis is also bad. I swear it screws up people minds permanantly. I've seen smart people go dumb on that stuff (no better way to describe it), and it never gets any better, even when they are off of it. Some sort of permanent change in their memory storage. Bad stuff. You could never get me to even try it after what I've seen. As for medical use, I have a different opinion. ANy drug that can help a serious medical condition, regardless of its possible negative effects, should not be banned from doctors prescribing it to treat that condition, period. With this banning mentality, they should ban morphine.

Alc, well, alc has some redeeming properties if you drink beer or wine, but nothing good comes of hard alc. FOr beer and wine, these include restoritive qualities for your colon and longer life! Move on the hard alc, and they can do away with it in my opnion. Seen too many people get screwed up and addicted to the hard stuff.

ANyway, just my 2 cents again, for what it's worth.

-S

[RedMenace]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

LSD is terrible, causing people to jump from skyscrappers, so I can't believe this was even brought up. It makes me question the intentions of the original poster.

-S

What are my intentions then?

While I have heard some gnarly stories about bad LSD trips, including suicides, one must remember that alcohol is responsible for an almost unfathomable amount of death and destruction. Suicide, fatal falls, fights, overdoses. Compared to alcohol, I'd say LSD sounds pretty darn safe.

[nikimcbee]

[quote=SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Not exactly what one would call a productive member of society.

LSD is terrible, causing people to jump from skyscrappers, so I can't believe this was even brought up. It makes me question the intentions of the original poster.

Cannibis is also bad. I swear it screws up people minds permanantly. I've seen smart people go dumb on that stuff (no better way to describe it), and it never gets any better, even when they are off of it.


-S

See Paulie Shore:rotfl:

[Chock]

When I was at art college many years ago, I was into grass and LSD for a while (what a surprise - art college), and I can tell you this, I got into them because I believed all that bull**** about it making you more creative and thought it would help me with ideas and stuff . But the truth is, it does nothing of the kind, you are either creative, or you are not, and drugs will certainly not assist you in becoming any moreso.

You can test this theory for yourself (relatively) harmlessly if you play a musical instrument. If you smoke a spliff or two and mess around on your guitar/piano whatever, what you play will sound really cool, and I'm willing to bet you'll think you've come up with a really good riff, but if you tape it and listen to it the next day when straight, it will sound like a load of old crap. This is because of your heightened perception making you think things are there when they are not, which is why people like listening to albums while stoned.

Now this all might seem like harmless fun, but anything that messes with your perception can be dangerous, and this is certainly true of hallucinogens such as LSD, and even plain old dope is often laced with more dangerous opiates deliberately, to foster an addiction for it in users. Several people I was at college with, who also got into that stuff, were not quite so fortunate as me, and they really flipped their lids and never came back after taking hallucinogens, and I'm talking about some bright people here, not that taking the drugs was such a bright thing to do, but they literally 'blew a mental fuse' and that was it, game over. They ended up as real basket cases, and as far as I know, still are, and that was well over twenty years ago now. So I consider myself lucky to have not had that happen to me, and that's the truth.

You can trust me on this one, they don't call it dope for nothing.

Chock

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by RedMenace

I have no idea how marijuana could be more dangerous than cigarettes, considering, you know, marijuana has no physically addictive properties while cigarettes are supposed to be on par with heroin in terms of addiction strength. If you mean that marijuana is more harmful to your lungs, that's untrue. A large percentage of smokers smoke one to two packs of cigarettes a day. I'd say the average pothead smokes a joint a day, probablly much less. Also, marijuana does not need to be smoked. It can ingested orally too, mixed with food or otherwise.

Driving? Sure, driving under the influence of anything should be heavily heavily discouraged, but you should read up, because pot doesn't really present a cause for worry on the roads. Unlike alcohol, cannabis doesn't inhibit risk-taking in an individual, and actually causes them to drive more cautiously, causing them to overcompensate for their intoxication.

Much like alcohol, marijuana inhibits the functions of short term memory and attention. So regardless, these people should stay the hell of the roads.