New graphic card - Page 3

xboxer · 08-03-07, 10:21 PM

Another thing you might want to note is, ask yourself what kind of games do you play all the time?

If it is just SH4, I say save your money and keep your 7600GT.

If you enjoy playing the latest power hungry games like GRAW2, R6 Vegas and SC DA, then get an upgrade.

Couple of hundred bucks for eye candy just one game(SH4), isn't very friendly on the pocket and neither will you get a bang for your buck. Besides, the requirements for SH4 to play on a relatively high setting is child's play compared to the games I mentioned above.

UnSalted · 08-03-07, 11:06 PM

MIght want to spend some time thinking about upgrade cycle times. Is it a good buy often depends on how often you will need to upgrade to keep running newer games with the eye candy people love. Personally I can't see spending bucks to ulgrade to an already out of date technology like a card built for Direct9. I'd rather wait an extra month or two and save a little longer to avoid investing behind the curve.

Just me. Good luck with your choice.

BTW I'm running a 7900GT with an AM2 4600 Dual Core and love it. Great bang for the buck and I'll keep the graphics until the 8900 series shows up which will most likely happen around the same time as Vista gets SP1. I love Christmas toys for myself.

rls669 · 08-04-07, 11:01 AM

I thought the K8N motherboard had an AGP slot, not PCI-e. If so, forget about the 8800 series because that is PCI-e only. The best performance for AGP is probably the ATI X1900XTX but that is quite expensive and also very loud. The Geforce 7950 is probably your best bet. Either will outperform the 8600 series, though I'm not sure that's available in AGP either.

FooFighters · 08-04-07, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rls669

I thought the K8N motherboard had an AGP slot, not PCI-e. If so, forget about the 8800 series because that is PCI-e only. The best performance for AGP is probably the ATI X1900XTX but that is quite expensive and also very loud. The Geforce 7950 is probably your best bet. Either will outperform the 8600 series, though I'm not sure that's available in AGP either.

K8N does have PCI-e versions, I have one

GT182 · 08-04-07, 07:48 PM

I hope the nVidia 9000 series comes out very soon. Then the prices on the 8800GTX will drop so I can afford one for a new pc build.

Canonicus · 08-04-07, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UnSalted

BTW I'm running a 7900GT with an AM2 4600 Dual Core and love it. Great bang for the buck and I'll keep the graphics until the 8900 series shows up which will most likely happen around the same time as Vista gets SP1. I love Christmas toys for myself.

Looks like you'll be waiting longer than you think. im afraid...
SP1 for Vista probably won't be available untill sometime in '09, at the earliest.

Heres a link to more info...
//http://www.guru3d.com/news.php?cat=&perpage=15&pagenumber=3/#5666

rls669 · 08-04-07, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GT182

I hope the nVidia 9000 series comes out very soon. Then the prices on the 8800GTX will drop so I can afford one for a new pc build.

High end video cards never come down in price much, they just get phased out and replaced. :p

OldFrenchy · 08-05-07, 08:16 AM

I too have an AMD 3200+, 2 6600GTs running in SLI and 2 gigs of memory on a socket 939 mobo. I don't want to buy a new comp either, so my solution is to up the cpu to 4000 and add an 8800gts. The vid card will transfer to a new machine down the line.
The AMD 4000 is available used on e-bay for around $40, and the 8800gts can be obtained for about $266 with a rebate:

8800gts:

http://www.clubit.com/product_detail...OTC-pricewatch

UnSalted · 08-05-07, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Canonicus

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Originally Posted by UnSalted

BTW I'm running a 7900GT with an AM2 4600 Dual Core and love it. Great bang for the buck and I'll keep the graphics until the 8900 series shows up which will most likely happen around the same time as Vista gets SP1. I love Christmas toys for myself.

Looks like you'll be waiting longer than you think. im afraid...
SP1 for Vista probably won't be available untill sometime in '09, at the earliest.

Heres a link to more info...
//http://www.guru3d.com/news.php?cat=&perpage=15&pagenumber=3/#5666

I was figuring November-December based on this report but it's really no biggie if it takes longer. I've spent almost 20 years learning to wait for MS to fix it's mistakes so I'm used to it.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,13...1/article.html

PepsiCan · 08-05-07, 11:22 AM

And what about the new ATI 2600? Seems to put the 8800GTS cards to shame, while being in the same price category.

Edit: had the number wrong. I meant the new 2900 XT

shakkie · 08-05-07, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiCan

And what about the new ATI 2600? Seems to put the 8800GTS cards to shame, while being in the same price category.

I think you mean 8600 GTS

... HD2600 and 8800 aren't same price category

Also HD2600 doesn't look better than 8600 on paper, though in practice it may happen to be better in some situations.

p.s hi to all captains

switch.dota · 08-05-07, 02:11 PM

The nvidia cards are usually better overclockers than their ATi counterparts. Usually, because I never tinkerd with the 8 series much.

My advise: stick with a high end DX9 card and buy a DX 10 native in 6-10 months from now (by that time the 9 series... mayeb even 10).

PepsiCan · 08-05-07, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shakkie

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Originally Posted by PepsiCan

And what about the new ATI 2600? Seems to put the 8800GTS cards to shame, while being in the same price category.

I think you mean 8600 GTS

... HD2600 and 8800 aren't same price category

Also HD2600 doesn't look better than 8600 on paper, though in practice it may happen to be better in some situations.

p.s hi to all captains

Sorry, I meant the ATI 2900 XT

shakkie · 08-05-07, 03:01 PM

2900XT is good when someone has strong PSU...but yes it outperforms 8800GTS, sometimes even ultra (in very rare situations), and have some reasonable price.

fair_weather · 08-06-07, 10:34 AM

I have a similar system setup as the OP.

AMD64 3200+
1 gig ram
ASUS Nvidida Geforce 7600GT
K8N PCI-e motherboard
etc. etc. etc.

and I'm going the insane route. I'm getting a whole new computer. $1,600 price tag, for the tower alone.

what I'm getting:

AMD64 X2 5600+ Dual Core
2 gig ram
ASUS Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX
ASUS motherboard with onboard Quadro (if I wanted to have more than two monitors set up)
250 gig HDD
Windows Vista 32 bit

And no I will never get windows Vista 64 bit edition. Not with the problems they've been having with it.

And this will be mostly a next-gen gaming/rendering system. Which will be able to play most of the upcoming DX10 titles (Bioshock, Crysis, etc.)

And no I don't mind that Vista has a few faults, they're mostly with drivers and that's why I'm going with onboard for sound and networking. So I don't have to put up with some of the beta driver crap that the companies are putting out there.

I can't wait

08-04-07, 07:48 PM	#35
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	I hope the nVidia 9000 series comes out very soon. Then the prices on the 8800GTX will drop so I can afford one for a new pc build. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

08-05-07, 11:22 AM	#40
PepsiCan Planesman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 189 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	ATI cards And what about the new ATI 2600? Seems to put the 8800GTS cards to shame, while being in the same price category. Edit: had the number wrong. I meant the new 2900 XT __________________ =================== AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.1Ghz 1Gb RAM MSI NVidia 6800 128MB MSI motherboard Realtek soundcard Windows XP Pro SP2 =================== Last edited by PepsiCan; 08-05-07 at 02:43 PM.

08-06-07, 10:34 AM	#45
fair_weather Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 197 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I have a similar system setup as the OP. AMD64 3200+ 1 gig ram ASUS Nvidida Geforce 7600GT K8N PCI-e motherboard etc. etc. etc. and I'm going the insane route. I'm getting a whole new computer. $1,600 price tag, for the tower alone. what I'm getting: AMD64 X2 5600+ Dual Core 2 gig ram ASUS Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX ASUS motherboard with onboard Quadro (if I wanted to have more than two monitors set up) 250 gig HDD Windows Vista 32 bit And no I will never get windows Vista 64 bit edition. Not with the problems they've been having with it. And this will be mostly a next-gen gaming/rendering system. Which will be able to play most of the upcoming DX10 titles (Bioshock, Crysis, etc.) And no I don't mind that Vista has a few faults, they're mostly with drivers and that's why I'm going with onboard for sound and networking. So I don't have to put up with some of the beta driver crap that the companies are putting out there. I can't wait __________________ Information on the Real SS-228

08-03-07, 10:21 PM	#31
xboxer Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Another thing you might want to note is, ask yourself what kind of games do you play all the time? If it is just SH4, I say save your money and keep your 7600GT. If you enjoy playing the latest power hungry games like GRAW2, R6 Vegas and SC DA, then get an upgrade. Couple of hundred bucks for eye candy just one game(SH4), isn't very friendly on the pocket and neither will you get a bang for your buck. Besides, the requirements for SH4 to play on a relatively high setting is child's play compared to the games I mentioned above.

08-03-07, 11:06 PM	#32
UnSalted Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 130 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	MIght want to spend some time thinking about upgrade cycle times. Is it a good buy often depends on how often you will need to upgrade to keep running newer games with the eye candy people love. Personally I can't see spending bucks to ulgrade to an already out of date technology like a card built for Direct9. I'd rather wait an extra month or two and save a little longer to avoid investing behind the curve. Just me. Good luck with your choice. BTW I'm running a 7900GT with an AM2 4600 Dual Core and love it. Great bang for the buck and I'll keep the graphics until the 8900 series shows up which will most likely happen around the same time as Vista gets SP1. I love Christmas toys for myself.

08-04-07, 11:01 AM	#33
rls669 Torpedoman Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 117 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I thought the K8N motherboard had an AGP slot, not PCI-e. If so, forget about the 8800 series because that is PCI-e only. The best performance for AGP is probably the ATI X1900XTX but that is quite expensive and also very loud. The Geforce 7950 is probably your best bet. Either will outperform the 8600 series, though I'm not sure that's available in AGP either.

08-05-07, 08:16 AM	#38
OldFrenchy Mate Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 59 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	I too have an AMD 3200+, 2 6600GTs running in SLI and 2 gigs of memory on a socket 939 mobo. I don't want to buy a new comp either, so my solution is to up the cpu to 4000 and add an 8800gts. The vid card will transfer to a new machine down the line. The AMD 4000 is available used on e-bay for around $40, and the 8800gts can be obtained for about $266 with a rebate: 8800gts: http://www.clubit.com/product_detail...OTC-pricewatch

08-05-07, 02:11 PM	#42
switch.dota Captain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 492 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The nvidia cards are usually better overclockers than their ATi counterparts. Usually, because I never tinkerd with the 8 series much. My advise: stick with a high end DX9 card and buy a DX 10 native in 6-10 months from now (by that time the 9 series... mayeb even 10).

08-05-07, 03:01 PM	#44
shakkie Nub Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Szczecin, Poland Posts: 3 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	2900XT is good when someone has strong PSU...but yes it outperforms 8800GTS, sometimes even ultra (in very rare situations), and have some reasonable price.