NEWS regarding 1.3

[longam]

A new post by UBI Mod.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/2591031065

english translation (c) terrapin here

[heartc]

In my opinion, one thing which makes promoting a further patch difficult ARE the so called "buglists" in the different forums. They are a hammer, and any dev looking into them while knowing he has only so much resources left to put into this game will just leave not only that thread, but also the whole damn forum and never look back.

I only know the "buglist" from here but I can imagine on other boards they look similar. Knowing my countrymen, I don't even WANT to see the German "buglist".
As to the buglist on this forum here, it seems as soon as someone mentions some trivial issues he might have had or might have percieved with the game, it gets added to the list. 80+ bugs left to fix? Don't kid yourselves. Most of this is trivial bull. The dive planes don't lower from time to time? Soooo, is this a showstopper?? You're watching a movie or playing a subsim? The only genuine buglist, with real must be fixed bugs, is the one Neal has brought up in his Patch 1.3 promotion thread. Everything else is bull and wishfull thinking, which would ultimately lead to the "perfect" game which has never and will never happen.
Get real.

[gg.]

Originally Posted by joea

I think you should realise we won't get any more sims if we do...

I think you should realize that we paid for this sim...

[Stary Wuj]

Lt. Cobra
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not me, im done with ubi. I wont buy any ubi product for a long time again and will make sure to tell friends about their bad support and patching policy.[/quote]

Me too, and what a strange question..... Ubisoft should provide patch or not....!!!

THEY HAVE ANOTHER CHOICE ???
Shame...............

Stary Wuj

[ScottD]

Originally Posted by joea

I think you should realise we won't get any more sims if we do...

Who cares? Its pointless if you really think about it...if a company makes a halfass product and doesn't stand behind it, people aren't going to buy it anyways...Your damned if you do damned if you don't...I rather fight fire with fire, instead of getting taken by a product thats done halfass...far too many software companies release crap these days and there no punshinment for that besides if they go out of business..which doesnt seem likely for a company like Ubi...

The least they can do is open up the code for moders to fix the problems with it, but no they'll just milk it for what its worth using the same crappy code.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by gg.

I think you should realise that we paid for tis sim...

Kill the goose to get the golden lawsuit?

[gg.]

Originally Posted by ScottD

Who cares? Its pointless if you really think about it...if a company makes a halfass product and doesn't stand behind it, people aren't going to buy it anyways...Your damned if you do damned if you don't...I rather fight fire with fire, instead of getting taken by a product thats done halfass...far too many software companies release crap these days and there no punshinment for that besides if they go out of business..which doesnt seem likely for a company like Ubi...

The least they can do is open up the code for moders to fix the problems with it, but no they'll just milk it for what its worth using the same crappy code.

I couldn't say it better...

[DedEye]

Originally Posted by joea

I think you should realise we won't get any more sims if we do...

I for one do not want any part of any future sims from Ubi if this is going to set the standard for the quality and support of future releases, so I don't think this is a very good argument. At the same time, pursuing legal action will not help us accomplish our goal of getting critical issues fixed, in fact likely the opposite.

[ScottD]

Originally Posted by DedEye

I for one do not want any part of any future sims from Ubi if this is going to set the standard for the quality and support of future releases, so I don't think this is a very good argument. At the same time, pursuing legal action will not help us accomplish our goal of getting critical issues fixed, in fact likely the opposite.

So we are supposed just to lay down and take it? Would be nice to set a precedent for a change instead of getting the same old...

[mookiemookie]

Ah, the good ol' American way. Sue over every percieved slight, no matter how small or trivial. That's the spirit!

[U-Bones]

Its even worse than I originally thought.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=158

Ugly.

[ReM]

After Neal started his petition I had the awkward feeling that news like this was gonna come out pretty soon.....unfortunately my gut feeling was right.

It is a pretty dumb move by UBI to hype a game the way they hyped SH IV and then deliver a half-finished product...a pimped version of SHIII. This will chase people away from subsimming because they might think that this disaster is the norm for subsims.

They could have done a better job if they had taken some of the marketing budget and spent it on the development of what could have been a worthy sequel: the ultimate subsim.

And now we are forced to beg UBI if they would please do us the courtesy of releasing another patch.... What a farce.....

I too bought SH IV on the day it was released and I have hardly played it since then...I should have spent the dough laid out for SH IV on some good books about the war in the Atlantic......

Luckily I still have a gem of a subsim on my rig....it is called SH III. Although UBI did not perfect this game either, they at least delivered a good base product which the modders have turned into something beautiful..this has added enormously to the lifespan of SHIII; I'm sure copies are sold even today.

Stopping the dev team from producing another needed patch will not give SH IV the same lifespan; a move that is 'penny wise but pound foolish' in my opinion.

Maybe the modders over here can make SH IV into something that resembles the game it could have been when it was released. But with a flawed basis to work with, this will not be easy, if at all possible...

I for my part will not ever buy a game again without having had a good look at it first....companies like UBI need to protect their investments and I need to protect mine as well.
The way it is now SH IV was a bad investment; besides the whole manner in which business is done gives me a pretty bad taste in the mouth.....

For now my crew needs me....U 46 here I come !

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by WernerSobe

On 28. of May we will bring everything together and armed witht he result of both actions we will try to convince those, that do not agree with another patch, that the comunity realy needs and desires it.

We know, that this is actualy not the ideal situation but in our opinion we must act before we finely end up without options. The decision wether there will be patch 1.4 or 1.5, is already out of our range and we want to do everything we can to at least afford patch 1.3.

thank you for your support.

Bean counters can never really see the big picture.

[Snowman999]

I'm with you on that one. I'll wait until it's official and if it's true, Ubi will never get my money again. That's a promise. Until then I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Withdraw this, sir! You are not bowing at the altar of Ubisoft! This thread will be locked in 10, 9, 8 . . .