Time off to give up smoking!!!

[gnirtS]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

That does not give you the right to belittle my A-levels, I could have gone to any university I wanted, I chose to not bother due to the huge debts they create.

Yes it does. Over the last 10 years or so A-levels have gone from easy to laughably easy. All part of b'liars idea that nobody is allowed to be accused of being dull now so standards are lowered throughout the board to gcse and A-level and into degree level. Universities are in lots of cases reintroducing entrance exams as A-levels are no longer an indicator of ability and the first year of lots of bachelor/masters courses is spent on remedial work to cover things that a-levels no longer guarantee people can do.
All of that though is irrelevent to the fact in discussion here. Deliberately choosing to do something that has horrific health effects and is highly addictive isnt exactly sane.

ware of that fact or am deliberately ignoring it. Which is not right.

Rubbish. You state you're aware of the risks and still do it. Therefore you are ignoring them.

[Penelope_Grey]

Yes it does. Over the last 10 years or so A-levels have gone from easy to laughably easy. All part of b'liars idea that nobody is allowed to be accused of being dull now so standards are lowered throughout the board to gcse and A-level and into degree level. Universities are in lots of cases reintroducing entrance exams as A-levels are no longer an indicator of ability and the first year of lots of bachelor/masters courses is spent on remedial work to cover things that a-levels no longer guarantee people can do.
All of that though is irrelevent to the fact in discussion here. Deliberately choosing to do something that has horrific health effects and is highly addictive isnt exactly sane.

As you wish Re: A-levels. I am happy with my result even if you think its tosh. I am proud that I put the work in and got my rewards, I don't appreciate people scoffing at my efforts.

Much like deliberately choosing to do risky stunts which can results in fatality or serious injury. Yet, plenty of people turn out to cheer for these stuntmen and women. I'm not addicted to smoking not in the sense I get desperate to the point of "JEEEZZZ!!! I MUST SMOKE NOW!!!" I can comfortably go through the week without feeling bad. I stopped smoking cigarettes completely, now I only have 2 cigars on a weekend. Not out of necissity because I like to smoke a cigar. I admit I am addicted at a psychological level, but science has proved smoking is not JUST a physical addiction.

Rubbish. You state you're aware of the risks and still do it. Therefore you are ignoring them.

Rubbish returned. I know what they are, I am not ingnoring them, I am simply not ready or able yet, to do anything about them. Stopping smoking is not as simple as saying "right I won't eat this food anymore" or something like it, if you have never smoked you are not likely to understand that.

[Kapitan]

Just found out our council activly sponsors us to stop smoking it pays for all or any worker who smokes to go for treatment to give up.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Kapitan

Just found out our council activly sponsors us to stop smoking it pays for all or any worker who smokes to go for treatment to give up.

So that's where my council tax is going.

[Kapitan]

probably its what £105 per session of hypnotherapy so far 8 guys have tried it, plus the other methords.

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Yes, feel. You see, you feel and have an opinion and an idea. I'm sure the smokers appreciate your feelings but none of those qualify as small sacrifices or charity in the monetary sense which is the object of discussion (fairness) of the thread.

WTF are you smoking?

I don't even know where you're getting your argument from. Are you saying that my opinion is irrelavnet because I.. have it? And what makes you any more right in taking me down than me saying what I said in the first place?

I have firm beliefs about the role of society in general. This applies to all Western style democracies, aprticularly ones with a common origin. To have a view as to the relavence and purpose of a proposed program is perfectly acceptable, and I am not giving away others money justby agreeing with it.

I believe in something and I am reaffirming it. Your arguements seem to stem from a basic view on your own part about the role of society in general, a role which is obviously "feck off, fend for yourself". If that is true then you should state that, instead of trying to corner my own beliefs as if they were somehow unacceptable.

[Heibges]

From a management standpoint, I think you can only get folks to do about 5.5 to 6 hours of work in an 8 hour day.

You get much better results trying to maximize output in those 6 hours, than get too worked up about what folks are doing for the other 2.