Read this if you have a 7950GT, dual core, or if you are plain curious - Page 3

stabiz · 04-19-07, 03:08 PM

Thanks AVG & gang, really appreciate it.

I have tried at+tab`ing, no difference. And it is true that one has to set affinity each time, and I have done that.

(Rightclick sh4.exe in task manager, juicemanj, and then choose "set affinity")

This is the first time I have had problems with a game - ever - so I guess its my turn.

I have no Norton of any kind, I use Avast, and I have tried to turn it off, but no difference. (It was running when the game worked just fine last night, so I dont think thats the problem either)

I will now try to install my old Audigy and see what happens. So long, captains!!

CruiseTorpedo · 04-19-07, 10:22 PM

Good luck, hope that does the trick. Report back to us and when you get the chance run a dxdiag and post the results

MikeJW · 04-19-07, 10:51 PM

Thank you Stabitz for this thread as I hadnt seen any of the advice. I have a 2.66 Core 2 Duo and my frames took a plunge after 1.2. Just editing the Developer lines in the .cfg has put me back to pre-1.2 FPS.

Grey_Raven75 · 04-20-07, 12:19 AM

Does changing the affinity work on the Pentium D's or only the Core 2 Duo's? And can you only do that while the game is running?

Pentium D 840 3.2 gHZ
1 Gig Dual Channel 667 mHZ
6800 XT 512 GDDR3

AVGWarhawk · 04-20-07, 08:48 AM

Bump,

Where are we with this Stabiz? Making any headway?

Kant Schwimm · 04-20-07, 11:30 AM

Stabiz
Just read your OP was really glad m8....

Until I scrolled down and saw that your probs are back

I still got stuttering on mine too, but I know mine is my xfi.... vista

dosnt recognise the control panel, so I have no way to moderate the settings

I'm just downloading some new drivers from a guy in china

but the word on the creative forums is that it sorts a lot of xfi sounds issues in vista and xp (its a sticky on their forums so it must be good...I hope)..

http://youppax.shcsclan.com/YouP-PAX-X-FI2007.rar its 660mb but this is a fast link.

I'll let you know if it cures mine shortly.

XanderF · 04-20-07, 12:38 PM

Only issue with the YouP drivers is that they disable all the hardware EAX effects - last I'd read, anyway. So a major reason to get the X-Fi over other cards (gaming) is moot.

Now, that said, I really don't know if Sh3/4 actually NEED anything over EAX2, so...???

tycho102 · 04-20-07, 02:02 PM

I can't say for certain, but I see activity on both my cores during the game. One core is maxed at 100% usage, and the other holds between 30-40%. In known serial threaded games (Doom 3, SH3, Neverwinter Nights 2, Knights of the Old Republic, Unreal Tournament 2004), I usually see 100% and 10%. In known multithreaded games (Halflife 2, Stalker, Supreme Commander), I usually see symmetry across the processors (60%/60%, 80%/80%, 95%/95%).

So, I believe SH4 has been "coarse" multithreaded. The sound and graphics may have been split off from the AI and physics, to some extent.

hensoldt · 04-20-07, 05:23 PM

Stabiz, try going to your nvidia control panel and turning off "triple video buffering". That helped me with this problem and I have two of those 7950s in my system. There's also something else I turned off, but I can't remember what it is off the top of my head. When I get home I'll find out.

stabiz · 04-20-07, 06:27 PM

Thanks all of you.

I have now tried all the tips in here, to no avail. The stutters just dont want to go away.

I have tried uninstalling the realtek hd audio driver too, and tried the game without sound, but still stutters, so I think we can release the audio from jail.

Hensoldt, I have tried that (and many other combos in the control panel), but no luck.

Marko_Ramius · 04-22-07, 04:06 PM

Maybe this will be useless, but it does not hurt ... And i don't think it has been reported so far ( If so, forgive me please

)

I remember some with dual-core AMD having issue like yours, Stabiz. And it was the cool'quiet who was active on the system. ( stutters; slow-down; speed-up ..)

I think with Intel the thing is called EIST (Enhanced speed step thecnology) ( something like that ..). Checking this in the bios is the way to go.

I don't want to give false hope, but who knows ..

04-19-07, 03:08 PM	#31
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Thanks AVG & gang, really appreciate it. I have tried at+tab`ing, no difference. And it is true that one has to set affinity each time, and I have done that. (Rightclick sh4.exe in task manager, juicemanj, and then choose "set affinity") This is the first time I have had problems with a game - ever - so I guess its my turn. I have no Norton of any kind, I use Avast, and I have tried to turn it off, but no difference. (It was running when the game worked just fine last night, so I dont think thats the problem either) I will now try to install my old Audigy and see what happens. So long, captains!! __________________

04-20-07, 12:19 AM	#34
Grey_Raven75 Mate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 60 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Does changing the affinity work on the Pentium D's or only the Core 2 Duo's? And can you only do that while the game is running? Pentium D 840 3.2 gHZ 1 Gig Dual Channel 667 mHZ 6800 XT 512 GDDR3 Last edited by Grey_Raven75; 04-20-07 at 01:25 AM.

04-20-07, 08:48 AM	#35
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Bump, Where are we with this Stabiz? Making any headway? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-20-07, 11:30 AM	#36
Kant Schwimm Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spaghetti Junction - England Posts: 137 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Stabiz Just read your OP was really glad m8.... Until I scrolled down and saw that your probs are back I still got stuttering on mine too, but I know mine is my xfi.... vista dosnt recognise the control panel, so I have no way to moderate the settings I'm just downloading some new drivers from a guy in china but the word on the creative forums is that it sorts a lot of xfi sounds issues in vista and xp (its a sticky on their forums so it must be good...I hope).. http://youppax.shcsclan.com/YouP-PAX-X-FI2007.rar its 660mb but this is a fast link. I'll let you know if it cures mine shortly. __________________ *Dulce Et Decorum Est Pro Patria Mori "The old lie"*

04-20-07, 12:38 PM	#37
XanderF Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 554 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Only issue with the YouP drivers is that they disable all the hardware EAX effects - last I'd read, anyway. So a major reason to get the X-Fi over other cards (gaming) is moot. Now, that said, I really don't know if Sh3/4 actually NEED anything over EAX2, so...??? __________________

04-19-07, 10:22 PM	#32
CruiseTorpedo Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 112 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Good luck, hope that does the trick. Report back to us and when you get the chance run a dxdiag and post the results

04-19-07, 10:51 PM	#33
MikeJW Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 106 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank you Stabitz for this thread as I hadnt seen any of the advice. I have a 2.66 Core 2 Duo and my frames took a plunge after 1.2. Just editing the Developer lines in the .cfg has put me back to pre-1.2 FPS.

04-20-07, 02:02 PM	#38
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I can't say for certain, but I see activity on both my cores during the game. One core is maxed at 100% usage, and the other holds between 30-40%. In known serial threaded games (Doom 3, SH3, Neverwinter Nights 2, Knights of the Old Republic, Unreal Tournament 2004), I usually see 100% and 10%. In known multithreaded games (Halflife 2, Stalker, Supreme Commander), I usually see symmetry across the processors (60%/60%, 80%/80%, 95%/95%). So, I believe SH4 has been "coarse" multithreaded. The sound and graphics may have been split off from the AI and physics, to some extent.

04-20-07, 05:23 PM	#39
hensoldt Bilge Rat Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Stabiz, try going to your nvidia control panel and turning off "triple video buffering". That helped me with this problem and I have two of those 7950s in my system. There's also something else I turned off, but I can't remember what it is off the top of my head. When I get home I'll find out.

04-20-07, 06:27 PM	#40
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Thanks all of you. I have now tried all the tips in here, to no avail. The stutters just dont want to go away. I have tried uninstalling the realtek hd audio driver too, and tried the game without sound, but still stutters, so I think we can release the audio from jail. Hensoldt, I have tried that (and many other combos in the control panel), but no luck. __________________

04-22-07, 04:06 PM	#41
Marko_Ramius Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near Paris Posts: 303 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	Maybe this will be useless, but it does not hurt ... And i don't think it has been reported so far ( If so, forgive me please ) I remember some with dual-core AMD having issue like yours, Stabiz. And it was the cool'quiet who was active on the system. ( stutters; slow-down; speed-up ..) I think with Intel the thing is called EIST (Enhanced speed step thecnology) ( something like that ..). Checking this in the bios is the way to go. I don't want to give false hope, but who knows ..