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Old 04-18-07, 12:48 PM   #31
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The US Army is just as PC.
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Old 04-18-07, 12:53 PM   #32
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Not really a PC issue.

Instructors being idiots, and racist idiots - Bad

overly PC culture - Also Bad
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Old 04-18-07, 12:58 PM   #33
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I fully agree that being a racist is bad.

Sometimes the issue is a little blurry.

The instructor didn't use a racial epithet.

And US Army Drill Sergeants do not make racial slurs, and the Army puts great importance and takes great pride in the Army Equal Opportunity Program. You need to get a comply on you efficiency report or you are up the proverbial estuary without the conventional means of locomotion.
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Old 04-18-07, 01:08 PM   #34
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I watched it and laughed pretty hard. I rewound it and laughed again. Seems more like a jab at the rap culture than at black people. But then again, mein Deutsch ist nicht sehr gut. This still seems pretty silly and harmless to me.
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Old 04-19-07, 11:21 AM   #35
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I don't have a clue what you are aiming at.
Let's start over. The "africanamericans" need to be tall, so that excludes shorties. Is this why some have complained? The short felt insulted? Former sarge here didn't had this kind of guy in mind:



More like:



But not as nice.

He's not a racist, he's a heightist.

The rest is a side issue dealing with the pretext of using Muslims/Turks as targets. Even if the former sarge here is a racist, he can still hide behind the tall-scary thing. But what excuse would he have to use a Turk? That was all.
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Old 04-19-07, 11:50 AM   #36
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I watched it and laughed pretty hard. I rewound it and laughed again. Seems more like a jab at the rap culture than at black people. But then again, mein Deutsch ist nicht sehr gut. This still seems pretty silly and harmless to me.
It was stupid and harmless. Every one who has been to at least some kind of military training knows that from time to time this kind of humor is necessary to ease the tension between sergeant and recruits.

Noticed how the "black afromaerican" thing is exchangeable? Who knows? He might as well have told the previous recruit that he is in an east german suburb and three tall, ugly skinheads are trying to set fire to a turkish girl. And he wants him to shout "Arschloch" everytime he shoots one of them. Where is the difference? Of course then nobody would have raised an eyebrow, because we all know that east german skinheads are evil, even if we have never met one.
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Old 04-19-07, 12:04 PM   #37
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It was stupid and harmless. Every one who has been to at least some kind of military training knows that from time to time this kind of humor is necessary to ease the tension between sergeant and recruits.

Noticed how the "black afromaerican" thing is exchangeable? Who knows? He might as well have told the previous recruit that he is in an east german suburb and three tall, ugly skinheads are trying to set fire to a turkish girl. And he wants him to shout "Arschloch" everytime he shoots one of them. Where is the difference? Of course then nobody would have raised an eyebrow, because we all know that east german skinheads are evil, even if we have never met one.
I totally agree. When I was in the German Army, we did just the same thing. Back then it was evil Soviets and even more evil East German commies. No one ever cared, and we said and heard things far worse than those. Everybody involved knew that it was just trash talk, and even officers did this sometimes.
But nowadays a Bundeswehr soldier can't even take a dump without some journalists nearby sniffing for a scandal...
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