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02-05-23, 10:19 AM | #31 |
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02-05-23, 12:20 PM | #32 |
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02-05-23, 01:14 PM | #33 |
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Helium based sabre-rattling
... Mr. Xi's citing "force majeure" to fly over Canada and the US instead of "right of innocent passage" when violating" US territorial waters in the Bering Strait in search of global mineral resources...is indicative of Bejing's double-standard when we transgress their South China Sea suzerainity in support of VietNam, Philippine and Japinese allies" interests... The unmitigated proof will be the response when we launch equally innocent balloons over China...and see how they respond to their own affront to their own territorial soveriegnty.... The real question is: what could the PRC hope to learn that their ample spy-satellites haven't already shown them- truly a waste of time, money, and rare-earth resources in the buildup to the other half of WWIII. Mere provocation is the only logical surmise...
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02-06-23, 12:40 PM | #34 |
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From today's 3 WSJ articles
It is worth noting: prior to the current balloon situation, "there had been incursions over the continental US. At least 3 of those were during Trump's presidency, while one occurred during Biden's term. They were of short duration, which may have factored in their non-detection. The Pentagon said over the weekend that China has a fleet of surveillance balloons spotted previously over Latin America, Europe and Asia...so be it; I'd like to see Frank01 and his F-22 get 4 more balloons if only to display more competence than three administrations as to aerial security; and a check to Sino-disdain for international rules on 'force majeure'.(''an irresponsible act and clear violation of US sovereignty and international law'). The Chinese objection to our 'overraction' is less than strident as Xi emphasizes a wish to restore Secretary Blinken's now cancelled visit. Some Sino scholars have acknowledged that the shootdown 'demonstrated America's distrust of China rather than an attempt by China to provoke or challenge Washington; the more so as Biden is under pressure to show toughness in dealing with China.' Recovery of the balloon's payload will clarify matters considerably-but one thing is clear, it wasn't a weather balloon...so the Chinese are, at least, liars who don't apologize for accidental airspace intrusions at best. Footnote to history: this was the first US target kill from such a high altitude(approx 58,000 ft).
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02-06-23, 05:12 PM | #35 |
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I wonder how much this cost?
How much did it cost the Chinese to send that balloon and payload? How much did it cost the USA to track and shoot that balloon down? Some sources state that a single AIM-9 missile is $200,000 to $300,000 each. Yikes!
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02-06-23, 06:00 PM | #36 |
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Yep that was the chance to test a blimp mounted rail gun
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02-06-23, 08:22 PM | #37 |
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Would have been a whole lot cheaper to get Feinstein's driver to sneak into Biden's garage.
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02-06-23, 11:55 PM | #38 |
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The blimp itself would be a Nikola Tesla modified Van de Gaaff generator, generating electrostatic energy as it moved through the atmosphere.
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02-07-23, 12:43 AM | #40 | |
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No need for fancy lasers I'd say. Just mount a big magnifying glass on that blimp and then focus the suns rays on the balloons skin. Should make a nice hole in it in short order without need of expensive missiles or other fancy gadgetry.
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02-07-23, 12:48 AM | #41 |
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Many still seem to be confused about this whole Balloon thing.
Here's a video which mostly explains what's going on: |
02-07-23, 01:56 AM | #42 |
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Well, the balloon didn't sneak in and it would be tracked regardless by people already employed to do that while at work. Photo recon? Who cares! You can go on Google Earth and see the same thing. Pictures of silo covers? Why not! What's the point of nuclear deterrents if your enemies can't see they exist?
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02-07-23, 08:24 PM | #43 |
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When it flew over the mountains here in NC I know several country folks were taking pot shots with their high powered rifles at it. I was waiting myself for a shot if it come over my farm, but no luck
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Now i understand China is 'requesting its balloon back" Quote:
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Just FYI a .30-06 round fired straight up will only get to about 10,000 feet before it starts back down. At which point you'll have about a minute to clear the impact zone.
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